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05-08-2009, 03:32 PM
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#365
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: May 2006
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The Judge...finding one to buy..
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Originally Posted by az bound
Pubtym; "holy mackrel" I think thats the same thing I said the first time I fired my .410 revolver. I own a Rossi which predates the Taurus and is no longer in production. Going to purchase the Taurus with the cylinder for 3".
I originally purchased it for my DW in 1970 when I worked nights and she was home with three children in rural Arizona.
Now for the exciting part: I have only used it for lethal purposes on two ocasions. Once when a fox with bad intentions invaded the henhouse and had to be eliminated and an old GE refrigerator that had been rampaging the countryside that I had to dispatch with five rounds of #00 buckshot. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
Rich -in-Tampa; My preference is the revolver because of the smaller size And larger shot pattern at close range, just right for the confines of an rv or bedroom and easier to store. The shorter barrel also means less penetrating power due to lower muzzle velocity than the long barrel making it less likley to penetrate through walls. Your .410 will do just fine.
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Good luck in finding a Taurus "Judge'. Most small gun shops probably are not authorized an allocation from Taurus. Most larger gun shops categorize the "Judge" as the hottest selling handgun in the past year. Call some gun shop dealers and ask about their stock on the Taurus "Judge'. When I found a local dealer last year that had some (3)...I immediately said..."put it on hold now..I'm on the way in my car in one minute!" Bought it 30 minutes later..
I shot trap with the CEO of Taurus in the Fall 2008. He told me they cannot keep Judge production up to fill the current high demand. You will be lucky if you find the exact model you want..I really like the flat black metallic " Night Court Edition". To me it's just more awsome looking than stainless or nickel models..
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05-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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#366
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Senior Member
Appalachian Campers
Join Date: May 2009
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Originally Posted by GatorDog
September 2008.
Peace River Campground, FL.
At about 1 am my doggie got a little upset over some noises coming from the drivers side little window. I woke and walked slowly towards the window where I could see movement from behind the curtin.
All I did was rack one in the chamber. All I saw was ass and leggs running away from the coach. Two other campers were broken into that night. Mostly storage area stuff was stolen.
Funny how the sound of a round being chambered makes some folks fast runners.
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Proof that there's a difference between running as fast as you can, and as fast as you have to.
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2014 Sierra 346RETS
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05-10-2009, 04:26 AM
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#367
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
Posts: 1,994
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pubtym
Good luck in finding a Taurus "Judge'. Most small gun shops probably are not authorized an allocation from Taurus. Most larger gun shops categorize the "Judge" as the hottest selling handgun in the past year. Call some gun shop dealers and ask about their stock on the Taurus "Judge'. When I found a local dealer last year that had some (3)...I immediately said..."put it on hold now..I'm on the way in my car in one minute!" Bought it 30 minutes later..
I shot trap with the CEO of Taurus in the Fall 2008. He told me they cannot keep Judge production up to fill the current high demand. You will be lucky if you find the exact model you want..I really like the flat black metallic " Night Court Edition". To me it's just more awsome looking than stainless or nickel models..
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You sure are right about availability, everyone has them on backorder. Wonder why they have become so popular? Guess I will just have to stand in line.
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2009 CT coachworks siena 35V
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05-10-2009, 06:12 AM
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#368
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Senior Member
Appalachian Campers
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 908
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They can't keep up just like you can't find ammo esp. in particular calibers. There has been an extreme run on firearms of all types in the last six months.
It seems to be easing a bit, but not much.
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2014 Sierra 346RETS
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05-10-2009, 09:28 PM
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#369
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,593
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pubtym
Good luck in finding a Taurus "Judge'. Most small gun shops probably are not authorized an allocation from Taurus. Most larger gun shops categorize the "Judge" as the hottest selling handgun in the past year. Call some gun shop dealers and ask about their stock on the Taurus "Judge'. When I found a local dealer last year that had some (3)...I immediately said..."put it on hold now..I'm on the way in my car in one minute!" Bought it 30 minutes later..
I shot trap with the CEO of Taurus in the Fall 2008. He told me they cannot keep Judge production up to fill the current high demand. You will be lucky if you find the exact model you want..I really like the flat black metallic " Night Court Edition". To me it's just more awsome looking than stainless or nickel models..
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There is a third option in this caliber weapon: http://snakeslayer.com/
Made in, appropriately enough; Granbury, TX.
If anyone says they have anything larger that #4 shot in a .410 bore shotshell, ask where they got it. No shotshell in .410 bore factory loaded is larger than that.
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05-10-2009, 10:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Rio Rancho, NM
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I have a simple requirement for my weapons, and that is can they hunt? Is there sufficient stopping power and accuracy to stop what ever game I seek and put dinner on the table. The secondary rationale for a weapon is to maintain self defense. Does this Tauraus 4:10 fit this. With few exceptions folks will leave you alone. Its the Government and potential collapse I am worried about. I suspect these little plastic semi-autos have about as much chance of hunting as the man in the moon. Just some thoughts as it was how my dad taught me.
Phil
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05-11-2009, 06:00 AM
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#371
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
Posts: 1,994
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
There is a third option in this caliber weapon: http://snakeslayer.com/
Made in, appropriately enough; Granbury, TX.
If anyone says they have anything larger that #4 shot in a .410 bore shotshell, ask where they got it. No shotshell in .410 bore factory loaded is larger than that.
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I had forgotten about the snakeslayer and I think heard about someone making a derringer also.
The last .410 ammunition I bought was purchased at Guptons sporting goods. Federal Personal Defense Ammunition PD412JGE000, .410 guage, 21/2in 4 pellets #000 buck 20/box. Federal premium power shok F412RS .410 1/4oz lead slug 5rd/box. No offense intended.
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2009 CT coachworks siena 35V
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05-11-2009, 06:12 PM
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#372
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motojavaphil
I have a simple requirement for my weapons, and that is can they hunt? Is there sufficient stopping power and accuracy to stop what ever game I seek and put dinner on the table. The secondary rationale for a weapon is to maintain self defense. Does this Tauraus 4:10 fit this. With few exceptions folks will leave you alone. Its the Government and potential collapse I am worried about. I suspect these little plastic semi-autos have about as much chance of hunting as the man in the moon. Just some thoughts as it was how my dad taught me.
Phil
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Although it was not designed as a hunting weapon I have used it to hunt rabbits and even javelina. The Taurus 4510 is a five shot revolver not a "saturday night special". The information I have given is for those whom are contemplating a personal defense weapon and is by no neans the only one that can be used for that purpose.
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2009 CT coachworks siena 35V
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05-11-2009, 08:18 PM
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#373
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Grayson, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
There is a third option in this caliber weapon: http://snakeslayer.com/
Made in, appropriately enough; Granbury, TX.
If anyone says they have anything larger that #4 shot in a .410 bore shotshell, ask where they got it. No shotshell in .410 bore factory loaded is larger than that.
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You can find Winchester Super-X 000 buckshot at Cabella's -- the 2 1/2 inch shells have 3 shot per shell and cost $5.99 and the 3 inch shells have 5 shot per shell and cost about 50 cents more per box. They are sold in boxes of 5.
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05-29-2009, 09:49 AM
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#374
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 43
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children around guns
when my kids were just big enough to walk i made sure to take them camping, along the wayi showed them a chipmunk and shot the animal to get through to the kids that guns kill and that stayed with them also i taught all three to shoot and started hunting with them . all threee have killed their own elk and all three are ladies.
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Originally Posted by Doggy Daddy
Like my father, I believe in gun safety education. Have a sit down talk with your grandchildren and answer their questions. Show them what damage a bullet can do to a water mellon, what it can penetrate i.e., steel, wall, glass, etc, and the reason they should never touch one until they attend safety school and have permission from you. Also, remind them the importance of reporting to you, their parents, teachers and police if they should ever see a friend or another child with a gun.
Do this not once, but at least annually so you can provide them the opportunity to speak about guns and ask questions. Someday you may want to take them with you when you go to a practice range.
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06-06-2009, 07:16 PM
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#375
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Goodyear, AZ
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Yes several but I also live in my rig full time. The Mossberg 500 short barrel with pistol grip was purchased for my trip to Alaska because I would be in the back country solo from time to time. But I also read in a book when I was getting ready to full time that it was very effective at persuading an intruder from entering by just racking one into the chamber. Also I under stand since it is my residence and I can not access them from the tow vehicle that it is legal to carry them. Of course the rules have changed with Canada since I made my trip north.
Paul
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07-07-2009, 06:27 PM
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#376
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i don't call it a firearm. his name is mr. ruger and he stands 357 tall. he just keeps us company.
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07-07-2009, 08:59 PM
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#377
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Senior Member
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2004
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http://www.pipersprecisionproducts.com/m134_6mm.htm
I would like to have this BB gun for protection, discourage tailgaters, and just all around house work like stripping the paint off the deck.
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2016 Jayco White Hawk 27dsrl
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07-07-2009, 09:15 PM
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#378
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Senior Member
Appalachian Campers
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DonavonP
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You sir are a bad, bad person showing me that.
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