Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-24-2019, 07:39 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,442
Does a clean vehicle get better MPG than a dirty one?

Interesting quandary. Found some interesting things when researching this concept. Wondering how/if a dirty MH, travel trailer or 5th would be impacted.

From the Science Channel's Myth Busters:
Dirty Cars Are More Fuel Efficient | MythBusters | Discovery
Finding: BUSTED
Explanation: In 2002, an engineer named Tom Wagner Jr., in an article on money-saving tips, reported improved fuel efficiency after giving his car a scrub down. And ever since, auto experts have debated whether the opposite might be true. But the MythBusters scored a point for the enterprising engineer by proving that the only money you'll save motoring around in a dirty car is quarters at the car wash.

People driving the dirty car myth argue that the grimy coating improves aerodynamics, much like the effect of dimples on golf balls. Those tiny divots disrupt air particles as they flow across a golf ball, reducing wind resistance — also known as drag — and sending it sailing 37 percent farther than a smooth ball would travel.

But randomly distributed dirt particles do just the opposite on cars, creating more drag as air particles cling onto the grime. According to MythBuster calculations, that filth effect cuts fuel economy by around 10 percent.

If only that dirt could magically form a golf ball-like dimpled shell on a car's exterior, this myth would be a hole-in-one.



https://mythresults.com/dirty-vs-clean-car

MythBusters Episode 127: Dirty vs. Clean Car
Premier Date: October 21, 2009

A dirty car is more fuel efficient than a clean car because the dirt makes the car more aerodynamic like the dimples on a golf ball.
BUSTED (CONCEPT PLAUSIBLE)

Adam and Jamie covered a car in dirt and mud and drove it down a track at highway speeds to measure its fuel efficiency, and repeated the test after the car was cleaned. They discovered that the average gas mileage for the dirty car was 24 miles per gallon while the clean car performed better at 26 miles per gallon. They then tested the reasoning behind the myth, and tested how well dimpled golf balls performed against smooth balls. They discovered that dimpled golf balls could fly almost twice as far as smooth balls. Dimpled balls disrupt the air around them, creating a smaller wake behind them and reducing drag. For a full-scale test, Adam and Jamie put a layer of clay on a car and did two more sets of runs on their track – one with a smooth clay surface, the other with dimples pressed into it. The respective fuel efficiencies were calculated as 26 and 29 miles per gallon. Although the original myth was invalid, the theory behind it was sound, leading to a final judgment of “Busted, Concept Plausible”.



https://medium.com/@reza_keshavarzi/...ent-d0591d58f5
__________________
2014 Raptor 300MP, 2014 Cowboy Cadillac - Ram 3500 Crew Cab Long Bed Longhorn 6.7 Cummins Turbo Diesel DRW 4.10 Rear End, 5588 Payload, Firestone Airbags, Curt Q20, TST507
raineman is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 01-24-2019, 07:49 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Old-Biscuit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 26,820
I know my truck drives better and gets better mileage right after I wash/wax it.
Same improvement occurs after oil change also.


Max affect......wash/wax & oil change at same time.


Course that is seat of the pants affect..no scientific data


Should see the effect when I get haircut right after was/wax/oil change...it's dramatic
__________________
I took my Medication today. HAVE YOU?
Dodge 3500 w/Tractor Motor
US NAVY---USS Decatur DDG-31
Old-Biscuit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 08:02 AM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 4,985
My Chevy truck gets better MPG after a good wax job. I do admit it's more related to my mood of being more relaxed and tired from waxing the truck which probably slows my driving speed.
On a serious side, it makes sense that a smooth waxed vehicle will slip through the air restriction easier, but the savings are probably measured in 1/10 MPG savings at best.
grindstone01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 08:10 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
ronspradley's Avatar


 
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,796
Absolutely better fuel mileage. Slips thru the air easier. And the driver sits higher in the seat, reducing unslung weight, thus reducing fuel consumption.



ronspradley
__________________
'95 Monaco Windsor DP 32' Cummins 5.9
Toads '96 Tracker 4x4, '06 Honda CRV AWD
Life's too short to drink diet soda.
ronspradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 08:18 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Bob_C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Vancouver Wash
Posts: 7,227
Do you see dirty race cars?......
Bob_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 08:18 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35,419
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronspradley View Post
Absolutely better fuel mileage. Slips thru the air easier. And the driver sits higher in the seat, reducing unslung weight, thus reducing fuel consumption.



ronspradley
The DW believe that. That must be why she stores the canned goods, pots pans and dishs in the upper cabinets.
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 09:29 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,527
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell View Post
Do you see dirty race cars?......
Sponsors don’t like dirt covering up their logo. Especially Tide.
BirchyBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 09:31 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Bob_C's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Vancouver Wash
Posts: 7,227
If dirt worked, that'd change!.....lol
Bob_C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 09:39 AM   #9
Registered User
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 7,114
We had this discussion regarding aircraft about 30 years ago.

On the LongEZ aircraft, no difference. HOWEVER, One exception: In cases where the LongEZ (VariEZ) used the older "GU" canard airfoil, (Mine used the newer "Rontz" airfoil) If the leading edge was covered in dead bugs, this could affect the lift performance of the airfoil.

It was determined that a large buildup of dead bugs tripped the boundary layer at the leading edge. Rain would do the same thing.

http://www.iflyez.com/


As for a RV, or a car, or truck. no difference....
Waiter21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 09:50 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Ray,IN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,903
So, the bottom line is; only wash N wax the hood and front fenders. This maximizes the feel-good effect while minimizing effort of uselessly engaging in work.
__________________
2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA." My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
Ray,IN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 09:50 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Cat320's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,768
Dirt on a vehicle is drag, less drag better MPG.
__________________
2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 13, 500 HP
Pulling a Honda CRV
Cat320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 10:00 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
stepside454's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,740
Can’t testify about dirt, but our car is covered stem to stearin in hail dents after 2 major hail storms last summer . We picked up at least 1 mpg according to onboard computer
stepside454 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2019, 08:30 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 492
Another thing that people claim will pick up 10% gas mileage . With synthetic oil and special spark plugs and all the other claims you guys must get over 40 mpg.
MotorPro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2019, 12:30 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35,419
I've added so many gas saving tricks that I have to let gas OUT of my tank after a trip.
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does the Breeze Slides work better than before? Idleup Tiffin Owner's Forum 7 12-07-2017 04:47 PM
Bryce Caynon report - better late than better. gazingm42 Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 11 07-07-2014 04:06 PM
Can We Get Better Campground WiFi Than Tengo CJ7ole Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 17 03-21-2014 07:29 PM
Non camping weekends don't get much better than this Dmiles MH-General Discussions & Problems 1 05-19-2013 06:18 PM
Does a higher HP diesel engine have a better mpg ratio Tom222 Class A Motorhome Discussions 30 06-12-2012 10:32 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.