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11-07-2016, 09:44 AM
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All the filtery stuff still has to wait for the materials to outgas. Then an open window and fan work as well at getting rid of the effluent. It can take a year or two for outgassing to drop below a noticeable level no matter what you do so ventilate to get rid of it.
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11-07-2016, 11:09 AM
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So I am going to try the ammonia method and wondering if anyone knows if janitorial strength 10% ammonia hydroxide is the same thing as industrial strength?
I am still a mess, going on 3 days now, and so desperate to get the toxins cleaned out and enjoy our investment!
Thank you in advance!
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11-07-2016, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lrakeahs
So I am going to try the ammonia method and wondering if anyone knows if janitorial strength 10% ammonia hydroxide is the same thing as industrial strength?
I am still a mess, going on 3 days now, and so desperate to get the toxins cleaned out and enjoy our investment!
Thank you in advance!
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Not sure where you read about any "ammonia method" ? I would definitely NOT add to your chemical odors by using ammonia! Ammonia will cause breathing problems on its own!
You want to absorb the chemicals vapors using activated carbon, or baking soda, or ventilating with outside air......they aren't simply "neutralized" with the addition of another chemical.
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11-07-2016, 02:20 PM
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Is this what you read ?
http://recvehicle.com/formaldehyde-odor/
If it were me I'd still go with the "safer" methods. Too many chances for "bad" things to happen with a chemical as strong as ammonia...... you need a face mask, gloves, and air respirator just to handle it safely .....and what happens if it gets spilled ?
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11-07-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pasdad1
Is this what you read ?
Formaldehyde Odor – Bob Scott RV
If it were me I'd still go with the "safer" methods. Too many chances for "bad" things to happen with a chemical as strong as ammonia...... you need a face mask, gloves, and air respirator just to handle it safely .....and what happens if it gets spilled ?
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Yes, that is one of seveal I read on the subject. I also read a few threads from others that have tried it with success.
Oh my, what to do......I'll order some of the charcoal first see if that helps....I also have coming the Maxxair covers for my vents so I will be able to keep them opened around the clock.....hopefully that will help....
I guess I'm just anxious to start having fun and equally worried that I might be so sensitive to the chemicals that no amount of time is going to work for me....
Thank you both for your replies, taking them to heart!
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11-07-2016, 03:39 PM
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If you're having problems days after being in the RV, perhaps formaldehyde in your RV is not the issue. Also, many other things contain formaldehyde, including soaps and cosmetics. All this might be a coincidence of getting your RV and it might be caused by something completely different - even common allergies to plants, etc. Has anyone else been in the RV? Have they noticed any smells or reactions?
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11-07-2016, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twogypsies
If you're having problems days after being in the RV, perhaps formaldehyde in your RV is not the issue. Also, many other things contain formaldehyde, including soaps and cosmetics. All this might be a coincidence of getting your RV and it might be caused by something completely different - even common allergies to plants, etc. Has anyone else been in the RV? Have they noticed any smells or reactions?
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It's a 2017 so it has that "new" smell. We've only had it a few weeks and we were spending just brief periods of time in it having everything opened with no issues until last Friday when I decided to spent the night in it.
Next morning I woke to a major headache, clogged ears, runny nose, burning eyes, and sore throat. Going on 4 days later I am still suffering.
Coincidence? Maybe I just have a bug? If it were from the chemicals would the ill effects even last this long?
I've been staying away from it since and I am still miserable.
I can't use fingernail polish with formaldehyde because it makes my cuticles highly inflamed and infected.....maybe I am super sensitive to the chemicals in the TT...?
Come daylight I'll be donnig mask, gloves, and eye protection, open it all up with fans running....and try to just let it air out for the next few weeks....
Uggggggg!
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11-08-2016, 07:58 AM
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If you have carpets in your trailer, I suggest that you shampoo them ASAP. This is for a couple reasons. First, if it was on a dealer's lot and prospective buyers wandered through, it's filthy. Then second, and the best reason is that the less then great quality (Chinese?) RV carpet is filled with chemicals, not only formaldehyde. We learned that quite expensive lesson about carpet when we put some new in our S&B home and our pup got big time sick. Our research as well as the vet gave us that information.
Of course, leaving vents and windows open and fans going will also help push out chemicals from bonding agents in plywood and siding. We still have some slight odor in our almost 3 year old 5er if it gets hot and is closed up - that's just an unfortunate part of the 'deal' with many RVs.
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11-08-2016, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lrakeahs
Omg, just spent my first night in our brand new travel trailer and I have the worst headache ever....a bit of a sore throat and irritated eyes... feeling yukky.......
Not sure why I thought after all these years and with the knowledge of the effects of chemicals that this day and age would be different...uggggg!
Obviously airing it out will help some, but any other advice? I just sunk my life savings into this thing... ..lol!
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Lrakeahs
See: Facts about Formaldehyde & RVs: FAQ
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11-08-2016, 12:45 PM
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Purchase n "Ozone Generator" machine and your problems will disappear.
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11-08-2016, 01:31 PM
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I spoke with a gentleman at Gulf Stream and they could really use a better personality to represent them, condiscending and snarky!
I ran across this filter, anyone heard of the company? It sounds pretty good if it really works as they say, >95% removal of formaldehyde!
https://www.filtrationgroup.com/WFS/...r-zidAP-25-SWZ
Thank you for the above information and responses, off to check out the ozone generator!
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11-08-2016, 02:19 PM
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djbmsu,
Have you used an ozone generator, and with good results?
I Googled some reviews and came up with several articles that actually stated the ozone increases the formaldehyde levels.....though you can't believe everything you read, and perhaps all generators are not created equal.
Have you one you could recommend?
Thanks!!
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11-08-2016, 03:50 PM
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This is the company I bought my ozone machine from. I bought mine to kill mold and mildew in a basement. It works well for that task.
https://www.air-zone.com/store/products/
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