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Old 10-09-2022, 04:16 PM   #29
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I don't why the gas prices are so high, but thank you, now I know where to stay away from. Texas and Oklahoma were pretty shameful as well.
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Been on a month long trip and was totally surprised to see diesel in Tucumcari, NM at 4.59 a gallon on 14 Sep. Last year it was over 5 easy! Traveling throughout the Midwest since that time and we didn't see that price again except for northeast Iowa where it was matched at 4.59. Traveling south to Tulsa we saw 4.29 which was the cheapest yet. Today it was 4.59. Tomorrow we will be back in Tucumcari and I wouldn't be surprised to see the higher prices in NM and AZ everyone is talking about in this forum. Old Bisket was right the refinery problem in CA directly affects AZ prices and having lived in AZ for the last 40 years it
has always been a CA to El Paso pipeline why prices are always higher in Southern AZ. Diesel in Sierra Vista AZ is normally cheaper than many parts of AZ based on what I am not sure. Either way no one in either of these two states will disagree that prices are too high just like they are throughout the entire country!
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Old 10-09-2022, 04:27 PM   #31
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We are exporting oil. Enough said.
Because private companies get a better price for it overseas. Welcome to Capitalism.

The winter blend is coming out early, there's plenty of supply, and prices are already dropping here in CA. Near me, it's almost $.40 cheaper than last week.
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Just read this. Yes gas prices are climbing out of sight. Part due to the 30-50 million dollar salaries paid to gas company executives and the companies keeping their stock value up and paying out big dividends to satisfy their stockholders. Not much we can do about those issues. But we can change some habits that will reduce our gas cost. Early this year (2022) we took a 3.5 month tour of the western US. I'm driving a 2021 F-150 with the eco boost V6 and 10 speed auto pulling a 25 foot TT that weighed around 5600 lbs loaded out plus the truck was loaded also. Using gasbuddy to find the best prices and watching my driving habits I averaged 12.8 mpg overall. I avoided the urge to get up to 65 mph instantly; rather, letting the truck get up to speed in 300-400 feet by keeping the engine rpms below 2500. I also used cruise control to maintain speed rather than my foot. Going uphill I used the truck lane and reduced my speed to keep the engine around 2K rpm. Point is, there may not be much we can do about the price of gas, but we can modify our driving habits to get the best performance possible and thereby reduce our out-of-pocket costs.
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Old 10-09-2022, 04:41 PM   #33
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I was in the Yukon this summer. 2.15 to 2.38 per liter! Gas in Haines AK was 6.99. In our 11000 mile trip we spent over 8 grand just on gas. My Minnie gets 10 mpg. Any competition?
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Old 10-09-2022, 04:47 PM   #34
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Anything above 2 bucks a gallon is high. I checked because we are going to AZ next week and all the states we are going through have somewhat reasonable gas prices except AZ and New Mexico
AZ boracho here. Gas high in AZ? Really?It's nothing compared to California. It's common knowledge to plan any CA trips with gassing at the border on the AZ side. Gas and diesel from 1.00 to 1.50 per gallon higher in CA. We've paid 3.39 generally. Good idea to use Gasbuddy and plan ahead.
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Just read this. Yes gas prices are climbing out of sight. Part due to the 30-50 million dollar salaries paid to gas company executives and the companies keeping their stock value up and paying out big dividends to satisfy their stockholders. Not much we can do about those issues. But we can change some habits that will reduce our gas cost. Early this year (2022) we took a 3.5 month tour of the western US. I'm driving a 2021 F-150 with the eco boost V6 and 10 speed auto pulling a 25 foot TT that weighed around 5600 lbs loaded out plus the truck was loaded also. Using gasbuddy to find the best prices and watching my driving habits I averaged 12.8 mpg overall. I avoided the urge to get up to 65 mph instantly; rather, letting the truck get up to speed in 300-400 feet by keeping the engine rpms below 2500. I also used cruise control to maintain speed rather than my foot. Going uphill I used the truck lane and reduced my speed to keep the engine around 2K rpm. Point is, there may not be much we can do about the price of gas, but we can modify our driving habits to get the best performance possible and thereby reduce our out-of-pocket costs.
There is one more choice and I made it last fall. I sort of saw this all coming,(after the election) and my 2007 RV was starting to show it's age inside and out so we decided to sell it as the market was pretty firm price wise.

I likely will get back into the RV life down the road a bit, after I see the gas prices and slightly used RV market price dropping. I have been an RV person for the last 35 years so this is not the end for me yet I hope.
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Go across the Colorado river to California and it is $1.50 HIGHER.
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Old 10-09-2022, 05:12 PM   #37
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The high gasoline prices are a result of the Washington DC WAR ON OIL. supply goes down, price goes up given consistent demand.
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Old 10-09-2022, 05:30 PM   #38
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Diesel went up 10 cents today here in Nebraska to $4.89, just a few days after the Arobbers announced a production cut.
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"Hard to believe we were energy dependent." Not sure exactly what that meant. Is it also hard for you to believe that two years ago that were in a pandemic, and a very large part of the economy was shut down? Is it also hard for you to believe that from November of 2018 to August of 2020 drilling for new oil declined by 80%, going from over 880 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA in November of 2018 dropping to only 180 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA in August of 2020? Also, is it hard to believe that in 2020 that oil companies shut down 5 refineries?



Also, is it hard to believe that drilling for new oil has increased by over 200% from January 2021 to the present, going from about 267 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA in January of 2021 to just short of 600 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA currently?

The 3-year chart is most informative.
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Your information is very misleading and you are wrong. OF Course drilling has increased since 2021. The world shut down and they stopped drilling and oil was actually ZERO dollars per barrel. They were literally paying people to take oil. If you really believed in the TRUTH you would expand the chart out to 5 years and you can see we are not drilling what we were in 2019. Since 2020 banks have been told not to make loans for new exploration and and the current administration had made it clear they will not support further exploration and we are no longer energy independent. And if you donít know what that means you should not be sharing your uninformed views. Do not cherry pick your information tell the truth or is that impossible.
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Your information is very misleading and you are wrong. OF Course drilling has increased since 2021. The world shut down and they stopped drilling and oil was actually ZERO dollars per barrel. They were literally paying people to take oil. If you really believed in the TRUTH you would expand the chart out to 5 years and you can see we are not drilling what we were in 2019. Since 2020 banks have been told not to make loans for new exploration and and the current administration had made it clear they will not support further exploration and we are no longer energy independent. And if you donít know what that means you should not be sharing your uninformed views. Do not cherry pick your information tell the truth or is that impossible.
Stop listening to pundits and start digging deeper into the industry. This is a *worldwide* market and prices fluctuate. Politicians of both flavors beat their chests but the truth is they have almost no control over short-term prices.
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According from what I read, the US is the largest producer of oil in the world BUT the US uses about 2-3 million barrels more of oil than we can produce. Also, from what I understand, a particular refinery is set up for a particular grade of crude and sometimes a certain source, they may have to import a particular crude for their production. Also price is determined by what the market will bear with supply and demand.

The fact of the matter is that people make the "choice" to own and drive a particular vehicle which may use more more or less fuel. A dependable consistent price for fuel has not been reliable probably since the 1970's. So if you were a gambler, would you bet that fuel would increase in the future or decrease? The RV lifestyle is a personal choice, and the cost to the RVer is dependent upon what RV or standard of living they choose and their ability to afford it. No one is forcing anyone (that I know of) to own or drive an RV. Some can afford it, come can't. If you like living in Florida, if you live in a location that is frequently hit by hurricanes, can you afford the expense and consequences of living there if you get hit by a storm or three?

If the cost is becoming more than a person can bear, then maybe it's time for that person to re-assess their lifestyle choice and reconsider not blaming somebody else for a choice they made.
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There is one more choice and I made it last fall. I sort of saw this all coming,(after the election) and my 2007 RV was starting to show it's age inside and out so we decided to sell it as the market was pretty firm price wise.

I likely will get back into the RV life down the road a bit, after I see the gas prices and slightly used RV market price dropping. I have been an RV person for the last 35 years so this is not the end for me yet I hope.
If you were really paying attention you could have seen these gas prices coming as early as 2018 when oil drilling companies started scaling back on drilling for new wells in the USA, going from over 880 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA in November of 2018, do to only 180 oil well drilling rigs operating in the USA in August of 2020. Also, if you were really paying attention you would have been aware that oil companies closed 5 refineries in the USA. You really would not have to have known mush about the oil industry to predict that oil prices and therefore gasoline and diesel prices would go up once people started going back to work and travelling more once the worst of the pandemic passed.
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