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10-09-2022, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverGrowUp
The high gasoline prices are a result of the Washington DC WAR ON OIL. supply goes down, price goes up given consistent demand.
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Uh... Wash DC's really got nothing to do with the price of gas, hubcap  . Propchief's explanation (#40), would be worth reading a couple times for ya'...
And let's not overlook the industry's appetite for profit, either.
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10-09-2022, 07:25 PM
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I'm currently in Texas, $2.95 a gallon low, about $3.09 average.
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10-09-2022, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxon
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Uh... Wash DC's really got nothing to do with the price of gas, hubcap . Propchief's explanation (#40), would be worth reading a couple times for ya'...
And let's not overlook the industry's appetite for profit, either.
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Just to name a few...
Imposed new regulations governing methane emissions from oil and gas production. Halted new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters. Delayed decisions on new leases. Canceled the Keystone XL pipeline. Suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Tightened standards for particulate matter and ozone. Rescinded Endangered Species Act reforms. Rejoined the Paris agreement. Imposed new carbon taxes. And now they're taking about prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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10-09-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverGrowUp
The high gasoline prices are a result of the Washington DC WAR ON OIL. supply goes down, price goes up given consistent demand.
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Oil supply went down because drilling for new oil declined by 80% from November 2018 to August 2020. Also, in 2020 oil companies shut down 5 refineries. Since January 2021 drilling for new oil has risen by over 200%!
Your opinion doesnt match up with the facts!
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10-09-2022, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny969
Just to name a few...
Imposed new regulations governing methane emissions from oil and gas production. Halted new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters. Delayed decisions on new leases. Canceled the Keystone XL pipeline. Suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Tightened standards for particulate matter and ozone. Rescinded Endangered Species Act reforms. Rejoined the Paris agreement. Imposed new carbon taxes. And now they're taking about prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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A good fairly tale, but it should have started with "Once upon a time..."
The problem is that drilling for new oil declined by 80% from November 2018 to August of 2020. Also, in 2020 oil companies shut down 5 refineries!
Since January of 2021 drilling for new oil has increased by over 200%!
Also, if you really believe in "America first" you should support prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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10-09-2022, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PJStough
Also, if you really believe in "America first" you should support prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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Granted I might be a little young for this but wasn’t gas still around 2 bucks when we didn’t allow us exports on oil?
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10-09-2022, 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny969
Just to name a few...
Imposed new regulations governing methane emissions from oil and gas production. Halted new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters. Delayed decisions on new leases. Canceled the Keystone XL pipeline. Suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Tightened standards for particulate matter and ozone. Rescinded Endangered Species Act reforms. Rejoined the Paris agreement. Imposed new carbon taxes. And now they're taking about prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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Are these old canards still around? They were debunked ages ago.
Tell me, exactly how are we negatively affected by the Keystone XL shortcut being canceled? The Keystone pipeline is still very much active and intact.
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10-09-2022, 09:28 PM
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What I wonder about: We all love low prices. But if gas was $1.00/gallon wouldn't that deter oil exploration, drilling & pumping? It seems like it would be a money losing proposition. Or do they just do all of that anyway for when prices go up? I know, it's probably way more complicated then that.
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10-09-2022, 09:31 PM
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THREAD WARNING
This thread is of importance to many members. However, it has gone off topic and is being used as a platform for political blame. As we don't want to close this thread, let's get back on topic.
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10-09-2022, 10:11 PM
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I filled up in Houston $2.71 gallon of regular 3 days ago. Found it on GasBuddy 2 miles from my house. The Valero right down the street was $3.09. Sam’s Club was $2.81.
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10-09-2022, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vroom_vroom
Granted I might be a little young for this but wasn’t gas still around 2 bucks when we didn’t allow us exports on oil?
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During the height of the oil shortage caused by the oil embargo of 1973, in 1975 US oil companies were prohibited from exporting oil. I dont recall the price of gas at the time.
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10-09-2022, 10:28 PM
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Those of us that live in CA plan to fill-up in AZ and NM because the fuel prices are MUCH lower in those states. Leaving next Sunday and already scoped where we will fuel in NV at close to $1/gal less than home. It’s all relative.
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10-09-2022, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny969
Just to name a few...
Imposed new regulations governing methane emissions from oil and gas production. Halted new oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters. Delayed decisions on new leases. Canceled the Keystone XL pipeline. Suspended oil and gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Tightened standards for particulate matter and ozone. Rescinded Endangered Species Act reforms. Rejoined the Paris agreement. Imposed new carbon taxes. And now they're taking about prohibiting US exports of gas and oil.
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So then explain higher prices in Canada, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany,..........
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10-09-2022, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SavnTheWales
The line seems to be north of Marana (just outside Tucson). It goes from $3.29 to $5.19. Average in Phoenix looks to be $4.79.
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Tucson usually has the lowest fuel prices in the state. Our pipeline comes out of El Paso and TX, looks like the rest of the state gets their fuel from CA.
The post mentioning the north side of Phoenix - high end part of town (Anthem, North Scottsdale,...) very nice! Capitalism at it's best. Our Costco on the NE side of Tucson sells gas for .10 cents more a gallon than the Costco location on the south side of town. Again, capitalism at work.
If only the prices decreased as fast as they rise 
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