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Wayne M · 08-10-2009, 09:56 PM

I carry one on person for the same reasons to have one in the house - protection. If anyone is to try and cause me, my family, or my property harm - well, that's why I carry.

There are certain areas that cannot be carried in and I respect and obey those laws. If i'm out touring around and I know I will be going into an area or building (banks, federal buildings, hospitals, doctor's offices, etc., ) I will leave the weapon in the coach. Those building that do not allow carry have to have a very conspicuous sign as prescribed by Texas law. Just a red circle with a line through a pistol picture is not adequate according to the law.

How many times in the past has a lone gunman walked into a public place and just started killing people. If I am there, and such an incident happens, I hope to the Lord that I will be able to stop him from harming to many people.

And never pull a weapon on someone unless you intend to use it.

Texas has reciprocity with a few states.

The NRA recently lost a bill by the U.S. House on reciprocity in all states as long as you were registered to carry in one. I hope it comes back on the block next session.

lonestranger · 08-22-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindsay Richards

Like many RV's I have a carry permit (Florida), but I carry a Mossberg 500 16" shotgun in my coach and a Kel-Ted 380 auto in my toad. Going from state to state, I don't make an effort to keep track of which state I am legal. (27 I believe). This illegal I know, but choose to take the chance. I rarely carry the pistol on my person and never brandish any weapon. It is now legal to have a weapon in a national park, but illegal in many state parks. Too confusing for me. I just do what I think is necessary and will play stupid on the odd chance I am ever caught. I would never attempt to take a weapon into Canada or Mexico.

Especially Mexico - unless things have changed in the last few years, that will get you serious prison time in a Mexican prison (almost as bad as some motel 6's!!

Eddie Foy · 08-23-2009, 11:44 AM

You are quoting the old law. The two action does not apply. In a glove compartment, console , or case suffices.

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Originally Posted by jurzbill

I am a retired police officer and do not carry a concealed weapon. I do however have firearms in my stick house and moho...why..because I do. I could never understand why someone would want to carry a weapon on their person. If someone tries to enter my "homes" without permission , I have every right to protect me and mine. Carrying a weapon on the street is an invition to disaster.
Law in Fla. for carrying a weapon in your car. The two action rule..the weapon is in the glove compartment and in a holster. In other words it take two separate actions to access the weapon.

MtManLee · 08-23-2009, 02:00 PM

Here is a good reason not to carry. Recently a mans daughter told him that another man was stalking her. So dad went after said person who was part of a neighborhood watch. Said person got out of his vehicle and dad saw a gun and shot him. Dad is now in jail pending trial for attempted murder and other person is an invalid due to severed spine from gun shot. Happened in Utah last month. Both men had Carry Permits.

Wayne M · 08-23-2009, 09:40 PM

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that is a good reason not to carry. The father took the law into his own hands. He should have called law enforcement personnel and let them handle any stalking situations. It's a tragedy that two (more including the families) people will suffer because of a stupid mentality. You also did not say if the father had a permit to carry, or just happened to have a hand-gun laying around. Sorry, not a good reason in my mind. It was surely a lack of training on both parties.

Hooligan · 08-23-2009, 10:21 PM

Concealed Carry Laws are very specific as to when deadly force is authorized.
The book by Ayoob that Ray,IN recommends is excellent. Another site with a good discussion of many aspects of concealed carry is :
Cornered Cat - Table of Contents

I have a Florida CC Permit. Florida has 2 Individual Protection Laws, "Castle Doctrine" allows you to defend your family in your home or an occupied vehicle. "Stand your Ground" Allows a citizen to use deadly force when a violent felony is being committed. These laws also prohibit criminals or their families from suing victims if the criminal is killed or injured. Florida Individual Protection Laws

Federal Law permits you to transport a firearm from state to state if it is Unloaded and locked in your trunk or a box. (Not glove box or console) Specific Law is here Interstate Firearms Transport

David K · 08-26-2009, 08:42 PM

Most states ---- except for the Northeastern states it seems --- have reciprocity with other states. Don't know when the Northeast will finally catch on. I have a full carry permit from the State of Georgia and it has 19 states that reciprocate.

dynaride99 · 08-26-2009, 09:00 PM

Wayne M I have to agree with you... The issue is the ability to be rational and logical. One thing that most military personel learn is to plan and train yourself for all contingences, rule #1 do not put yourself into a situation that you can not control. Law enforcement officers should have been called for this.

hamguy · 08-27-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dynaride99

Wayne M I have to agree with you... The issue is the ability to be rational and logical. One thing that most military personel learn is to plan and train yourself for all contingences, rule #1 do not put yourself into a situation that you can not control. Law enforcement officers should have been called for this.

Your rule #1 is fine and dandy but unenforceable. I have NO control over those who would do harm to me and mine. That is the reason for concealed or open carry.

Wayne M · 08-27-2009, 05:29 PM

Hamguy,
The situation I was referring to is what MtManLee posted. It is not a rational decision to go home, get your gun and go hunting for a stalker. And it definately is not taught in the concealed weapons courses. That is what the police are for. The girls father put himself into a situation that he could not control. He did not just react to a situation, but place himself in it.

Ti5er · 08-27-2009, 09:31 PM

I think Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states that there is no right to carry but I could be wrong on that statement..A right to carry permit only states you have the right to have a gun on your person no big deal.All right to carry states have some restrictions where you can not carry even with the permit.A lot of people forget just what a right to carry permit is.It's not a right to show the gun in hopes of scaring someone it's not even a right to discharge the weapon you carry.There are other laws that cover the defense issue.It is just a plain state given right to have a cancelled fire arm on your person If you produce it and fire it you are subject to any and all laws you break by doing so.Of coarse that is still a personal decision one can still make.

hamguy · 08-28-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne M

Hamguy,
The situation I was referring to is what MtManLee posted. It is not a rational decision to go home, get your gun and go hunting for a stalker. And it definately is not taught in the concealed weapons courses. That is what the police are for. The girls father put himself into a situation that he could not control. He did not just react to a situation, but place himself in it.

Agreed. It is never good (or legal) to take the law into your own hands. I learned that from the Lone Ranger... or was it Joe Friday?

mfolsom · 08-28-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tncruiser

i beleive you can not apply in a state where you are not a resident
in tn your primary ID to apply is your drivers license,we are a recipacal state w/almost every body just move to tn low prop taxes no income tax and lower unemployment than most
brianj

Late reply but...
I have the form from my TN HCP renewal in my wallet and it has a question in section 3 part B. "Are you a valid out-of-state permit holder applying for a non-resident permit? If so, you must provide proof of employment in Tennessee for at least thirty (30) hours per week for six (6) consecutive months."

cb5300 · 08-28-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MtManLee

Here is a good reason not to carry. Recently a mans daughter told him that another man was stalking her. So dad went after said person who was part of a neighborhood watch. Said person got out of his vehicle and dad saw a gun and shot him. Dad is now in jail pending trial for attempted murder and other person is an invalid due to severed spine from gun shot. Happened in Utah last month. Both men had Carry Permits.

Not hardly

....This just teaches that you need to be aware of your surroundings and that the "victim" should have kept his firearm concealed and the "Shooter" should have called the police in the first place.