Full Carry Permit

[a k]

Wonder if the shooter in Orlando today had a permit?

[Lindsay Richards]

There are over 1 million CC permits now in Florida (including mine). If one of the 7 people shot yesterday had a weapon on him, he possibably could have stopped the idiot. This aspect of CC permitting is rarely mentioned, but I'll bet the people crammed in the closet awaiting to be shot wished they had a waspon to defend themselves.

[Eddie Foy]

There is no "two step" rule and you are quoting the wrong statute.

Section 790.25(5), which deals specifically with possession in a private conveyance states that "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012." (Emphasis added.)

Section 790.001(17) defines the term "securely encased" to mean "in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access."

So, while you cannot carry the weapon on your person, you can at least have it nearby in your vehicle while traveling.

Originally Posted by Jack&Rita

We use the advice as told by JURZBILL earlier. Glove compartment and holstered.
Fl statute # 790.053-061.
Had a Georgia CC permit several years ago but found it cumbersome, for me, to tote a 45cal auto around everywhere. Keeping the big gun concealed was no easy matter either. We ALWAYS have protection when we are in ANY of our vehicles though and would be very grateful for someone with a current CC permit to back us up if needed.

Good topic and well addressed.

Best...Jack&Rita

[tmspoon]

If you are from PA this site will tell you which states reciprocate or have other agreements with us.

www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/concealed-carry/reciprocity

[rogueii]

Originally Posted by Eddie Foy

There is no "two step" rule and you are quoting the wrong statute.

Section 790.25(5), which deals specifically with possession in a private conveyance states that "it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012." (Emphasis added.)

Section 790.001(17) defines the term "securely encased" to mean "in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access."

So, while you cannot carry the weapon on your person, you can at least have it nearby in your vehicle while traveling.

All the above carry methods in the vehicle--Require TWO steps to retrieve:

1: Open (Glovebox,Box,Zippered Guncase, Snaplock Holster, etc.)
2: Retrieve the weapon.

That is why it is referred to as the "Two Step" retreival

[Brewer & Nancy]

I know NM is a open carry state. Go to www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html -
for a breakdown of every state.

States with a CC law have less crime. The bad guys don,t know who may be armed and shot their lousy ass. B

[Eddie Foy]

If you say so. I get the feeling that arguing with you is pointless.

(17) "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.

If that means two steps to you-so be it.

Originally Posted by rogueii

All the above carry methods in the vehicle--Require TWO steps to retrieve:

1: Open (Glovebox,Box,Zippered Guncase, Snaplock Holster, etc.)
2: Retrieve the weapon.

That is why it is referred to as the "Two Step" retreival

[Lindsay Richards]

When I took my CC class in Florida, the instructor said that 2 methods without locks were required. I carry my 380 Auto in my truck console (with a nonlocable lid) in a zippered leather pouch. He indicated that this was in compliance. It takes about 5 seconds to get it out and I leave a clip in the gun. It also must be racked before firing.

[BigSkyBob]

Just came into the RV park in Nellis AFB, Las Vegas. No questions asked.