Full-time with no black tank pyramid- My method

[Lantley]

Originally Posted by FusionKing

I realize no one will read this because nobody reads comment
In a park where people are basically permanent, normal RV hose isn't always used.
Instead you adapt PVC with a rubber coupler. You could easily make a trap for sewer gas and flies.

A trap makes all the difference. What you propose is doable but very different from the OP's design.
How transient or permanent is the RV? Being able to maintain mobility is a major factor in the design criteria.

[Chuck&Pam]

Originally Posted by FusionKing

I realize no one will read this because nobody reads comment
In a park where people are basically permanent, normal RV hose isn't always used.
Instead you adapt PVC with a rubber coupler. You could easily make a trap for sewer gas and flies.

Agree on two points... very few will read comments.. or even past the 1st paragraph of the OP post. Most will just start typing.


And..I have an RV in a permanent setup too. 80% of the people in the park have permanent type PVC piping to the sewer connection as I do.

[NanaRockMe]

Thank you the black tank flush posting. Good idea to flush regularly to avoid the dreaded pyramid! I plan to do so but manually as wifi valves can be unreliable as someone else mentioned. My question is about the bidet toilet though. I have not been able to find an electric (heated) one that fits the stock RV toilet. Is yours an electric bidet? If so, did you replace the toilet and any issues with doing that?

[Lynxman]

In regards to the original post (and nothing bidet, etc related) I see the OP's "solution" as something that to me was never a problem at all. While wintering for 2-3 months down south each year I leave my Grey water drain open and the Black drain closed. I wait until I see the black level at 3/4+ or so and drain it. I then use my black flush to semi fill the black tank, add my Happy Camper's treatment, and repeat as necessary. I see the addition of WiFi controlled valves and the use of a black tank with no pre-filled water as potential problems which if something goes wrong the solution to that mess would be much more than just dumping the tank regularly. Sorry but sometimes basic is best!

[BikesAndGuns]

Originally Posted by Allenire

Posting this for anyone in a similar situation as I, who may not have thought of this method. I'm parked full time in a park, with both tanks open to drain all the time. My rig has a blank tank flush inlet, as many do, and I've connected a hose to the park water system through a backflow preventer and a wi-fi enabled irrigation controller, though any timer controller will work. Depending on your needs, you can configure the controller to come on every day or two, or three, and for 1-?? minutes. My tank bottom is perfectly clean below the toilet inlet with once per day for 10 minutes. Eventually I'll start decreasing the minutes per day and monitoring to find the minimum, but for now 10 is plenty to keep the tank clean with zero regular monitoring or maintenance / flushing. As the controller is wi-fi enabled, I can manually flush the tank any time from my phone, which is handy for inspecting the tank and the spray flow through the toilet from inside the coach. It's also easy to install an injector along the hose line for chlorine tablets, deodorant, or whatever else you might want to include in the flush water. Obviously, attention would be prudent to make sure you're not interfering with the septic/sewer process with too much chemical input.

The few times in the last year that I've filled and flushed the tank manually to check the process, very little extra material came out, which would be expected at any given time. If a build-up occurs anywhere in the tank, I suspect it will eventually become a target of the sprayer, keeping everything at an equilibrium. Both tank gauges show empty all the time, of course. I use regular household TP, Charmin Ultra along with a elongated Bidet Seat from Costco.

For the most part, the rig operates almost exactly like normal household plumbing. If your full-time setup involves regular dumping of tanks, RV TP, and feels like a bit of a hassle, and your black tank has a flushing port, this solution may work for you as well as it works for me. 14 months and counting with no issues. Good luck!

People responding to you don't seem to understand that you've been doing this for a while and have probably avoided the potential issues they are mentioning. I have a question. Do you drop a section of your hose to prevent odors and bugs from coming up from the sewer?

[BikesAndGuns]

Originally Posted by Lantley

No I keep dump valve closed to prevent odors and bugs from coming up from the sewer.
While the OP may have been doing this for awhile, exposure to open sewer is NEVER a good thing. There is nothing healthy in a public sewer.
The risk far outweigh the OP's desire for convenience.

Sorry, I meant to ask that of the OP.