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01-02-2009, 03:53 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Texas
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Check out this news story:
http://tinyurl.com/9y37fd
Since folks are driving less, tax revenues for road/bridge repairs are down . . . the solution?
Raise fuel taxes!
I really think we've reached the point we cannot afford ourselves anymore.
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Warren and Debbie, Deep in The Heart of Texas
2018 Winnebago View 24D
2014 Tiffin Breeze 32BR, 2012 Winnebago Navion 24G, 2006 Winnebago View 23H
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01-02-2009, 03:53 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Texas
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Check out this news story:
http://tinyurl.com/9y37fd
Since folks are driving less, tax revenues for road/bridge repairs are down . . . the solution?
Raise fuel taxes!
I really think we've reached the point we cannot afford ourselves anymore.
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Warren and Debbie, Deep in The Heart of Texas
2018 Winnebago View 24D
2014 Tiffin Breeze 32BR, 2012 Winnebago Navion 24G, 2006 Winnebago View 23H
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01-02-2009, 04:45 AM
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Community Moderator
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Weyauwega, WI US
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Excellent post;
Government has become addicted to taxing us for a bloated system. The less of anything we use that is taxed the more they will want to raise our taxes.
Last budget our Governor transfered $500,000,000 out of the Transportation Fund to pay for other political promises. Can you guess the public reaction when his administration proposes new fuel taxes because of a shortfall for highway projects?
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01-02-2009, 05:30 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Spokane, WA
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That sure sounds like a vicious circle!
People aren't driving, so the states aren't getting their normal revenue. Their solution? Raise fuel taxes even more, making the price of fuel MORE expensive, which means people will drive even less!
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2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K
2011 Kia Soul
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01-02-2009, 06:53 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Pensacola, Florida
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If we quit supporting so many illegals we would have plenty of money to build and fix our roads. We don't need new taxes, we need new elected officials.
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Jim
2006 Tiffin Phaeton - 2011 Cadillac SRX
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01-02-2009, 05:19 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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Hopefully, someday there will be people in state and federal government that realize that the higher a product is taxed, the less the public will use it. Until then the circle will continue.
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01-02-2009, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Appalachian Campers Ford Super Duty Owner Carolina Campers
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Four Oaks, NC
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What should we expect when we continue to elect individuals who are economically clueless. We have only ourselves to blame.
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01-03-2009, 03:25 AM
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A few years back Ct raised the tax on diesel only to find that trucks carry enough fuel to drive thru the state without refueling.Why fill up in the most expensive state?
BOB
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01-03-2009, 06:00 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mesa, AZ USA
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The bottom line is there are two possible outcomes. One is a total takeover ending up in a socialist (GOVERNMENT CONTOLLED) state, or Two, an armed revolution as occurred in 1776+ for the same reason. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!
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2002 Itasca Suncruiser - WH Chassis - 35U - 2006 Jeep Liberty
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01-03-2009, 07:59 PM
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Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Central Arkansas
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Mt Vernon,Illinois imposed a 2 cent per gallon diesel fuel tax, thinking they would raise a lot of money for the city. Guess what the 3 truck stops in town saw their sales plummet to almost nothing. The city has lost money.
The government's are looking for ways to make money. Missouri would like to turn I-70 from St Louis to Kansas City into a toll road.
Illinois has leased their toll road to a Spanish and Australian consortium for 75 years. Now the local fire depts want to charge for responding to the toll road because the consortium doesn't pay any property taxes.
Unlike us in the real world, politicians have yet to realize that when your revenue goes down you must cut spending.
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01-04-2009, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Texas
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A few years ago Tucson Arizona raised the tax on campsites and transient living quarters like motels and hotels. They forgot that these people were on wheels. Guess what...income was even less!
Sometimes voting with your feet makes the loudest noise.
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of stupid people in large groups
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01-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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Some government enterprise is good and some is bad. Some private companies are good and some are bad. The key is that the entity has a purpose and is run by honest and frugal leaders. Frugal is a key word. That is what our government for the most part has lost. But then so have most of our banks. And hedge fund presidents. Subprime mortgage lenders. And so on. NO ONE wants the USA to end up like the former Soviet Union or Cuba. So people should not go on with the Russ Limbaugh line about everything needs to have the discipline of the free market. Bushwhacks.
My solution is to bring back the Roman games for the time period between the Super Bowl and opening day for baseball. Just use stadiums and put in some lions and then toss in a few subprime lenders and spendthrift government workers. Nothing will be solved but it will raise our spirits. The grand finale is to pit a wall street mogul against and in-the-till politico in a fight to the death.
You have to have some humor these days or you want to slit your wrists. But my 1975 GMC motor home is paid for, so I am not worrying too much.
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Currently Coachless
2013 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
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01-05-2009, 11:43 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: middleburg,fl
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The latest twist; some states, and the feds, are exploring ways to a tax based on mileage driven.
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01-06-2009, 04:41 PM
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"Cause and effect" and "choices and consequences" are huge concepts we need to revisit.
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