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12-14-2014, 09:06 PM
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Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Giving up many up-grades on your trade-in
When you've made many up-grades on your current coach then have to leave them all with your trade-in for a new coach does it bother anyone else like it seems to be doing to me? And having to re-learn all the new appliances and equipment all over again even though we're getting all new stuff.
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12-14-2014, 09:08 PM
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If you have a great used coach, why won't you sell it to a private party who will appreciate your loving care?
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12-15-2014, 09:13 AM
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I haven't had the problem yet, but on my current fiver I've upgraded to GC2 batteries, Maxxis E-rated tires, added 12v receptacles, Vortex 5-spd vent fan, sewer hose tube, SteadyFast stabilizers, complete LED bulb replacement, etc. Selling privately might be the way to recoup some of that.
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12-15-2014, 10:25 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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I have no plans to sell at the moment, but when and if I do, everything I can restore to original will be.
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12-15-2014, 10:51 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Hi wagonmaster2,
This is one of the very big reasons I have not purchased a new coach. Over the years I've put about $25K of upgrades and am about to put another $15K into the coach. The coach is almost exactly the way I want it to be. If I ever get the value back is not the point. My point is why trade. New coaches do not have what I have (sort of). New coaches do have 45' length and a tag axle and that would be nice. However, not 1/2 million dollars nice.
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12-15-2014, 12:47 PM
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If you can 'revert' your unit back to original and without leaving much if any trace, then do it. If not, you did have the enjoyment for some time of those mods - and why I left 2 big rooftop solar panels and an almost brand new SeeLevel tank monitoring system on our traded 5er. And now with the new one, going through some of the same process, starting with some more shelving and La-Z-Boy wall hugger recliners...... It's just like your S&B home. You make the improvement to suit your tastes and needs then move on when you change homes
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12-15-2014, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodgerS
If you have a great used coach, why won't you sell it to a private party who will appreciate your loving care?
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That's what I keep asking myself. Then I say to myself "with all the unscruplyous, dishonest, and downright scary characters running around in our mist anymore would I want to risk my safety to take someone I didn't know for a ride in my coach out on the highway". If anyone has been in this situation before and has an answer on how to approach it I would be very greatful. (Other than asking one of our local LEOs to accompany us, which I doubt they'd do).
The last 5 vehicles I've sold (3 cars and 2 RVs) went to individuals I either knew or recognized from work but after the Company has moved so many employees out of town the one's I still know are few and far between.
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12-15-2014, 07:03 PM
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Reminds me of a house for sale. The previous owner loved their second oven so much, they took it with them. The hole in the wall was a deal killer. Good luck.
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12-15-2014, 07:15 PM
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That's a good question wagonmaster2. I think the issue cuts both ways.
First, I would list the rv in the forum and see if a forum member would buy it. At least you could read their posts and they read yours.
Second, I would have your local bank handle the paperwork and transfers of funds, probably for a fee, in conjunction with their bank.
Third a, call a security service and have them send somebody out, in plain clothes, and represent they are your friend or have a neighbor help, etc.
or Third b, In my situation, I have identified Billy Ross in Georgia, via the internet and also someone in this forum used him and said it was a great service. For a very reasonable fee, he will help with finding a rig or selling a rig, and will also come out and look the rig over. I feel I can do that myself, but why not let him do the bird dogging for me and/or in conjunction with me. He was an ex dealer and his son works in the rv industry as well.
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Or put it in for consignment at PPL or a local dealer and pay them a consignment fee.
Our fears keep us from doing many things we should be doing. There is always a way to do things in a way that addresses our fears or our lack of knowledge that would prevent us doing a proper job of the due diligence.
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12-16-2014, 02:27 AM
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Vintage RV Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
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You really don't say why you traded her, age, miles, or just tired of her  Personally my 32 year old is just the way I like her. I have no plans on trading her off for a new model. She gets the compliments everywhere we go I'm so proud of her.
I tried selling my 64 convert last summer because I am motorhoming more, she didn't sell and now sit's in the garage but I take her out every chance I can when home. Glad she didn't sell 
I guess my point is if she is like you want why go to something you not sure of? more headaches.
Happy Holidays, Tim
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12-16-2014, 08:58 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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You don't get any more when you trade with upgrades, they only look at age, and general condition. Sometimes they don't even look inside for very long. What the BOOK says is bible regardless.
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12-16-2014, 10:44 AM
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Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
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The obvious answer is "Don't trade it - remodel it instead".
You almost never recoup the value of upgrades, whether an RV, car or even a house. Especially when the upgrades are just better grades of a standard item rather than an additional feature. A better grade of tire, enhanced suspension components, etc. are not readily distinguishable to buyers and so not much of a value-add. To increase value by any measurable amount, the upgrade needs to have impact and be readily visible. Full-body paint job, BIG tv, that sort of thing. Still may not get you much from a dealer on a trade, though. On my last two trades, the dealer didn't even see the coach when he quoted the book trade value - just asked general condition and floor plan.
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12-16-2014, 11:05 AM
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Jayco Owners Club RV Trip Wizard
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Story of my life, just ask my wife.
One thing upgrades can do for you; while they may or may not add to the "book" value of your rig, they will make it stand out among others for sale at the same time, perhaps moving yours to the top of a potential buyers list. In other words, they'll make yours more desirable than your competitors.
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12-16-2014, 11:57 AM
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
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 We've put upgrades into every RV we've owned, some quite expensive. Yes, there's that sad feeling your efforts at improving your RV will get you squat doing a dealer trade-in. However, I look at it as our upgrades will put our RV above the other no-upgraded units on the lot & I get at least a little bit of satisfaction knowing the new owner will have a higher quality RV because of what we've done.
Lori-
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