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03-26-2016, 06:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 3,722
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If it has a prepaid envelope, it goes back with a Sharpie penned note to not send any more of their crap to me. I have also gone on their website and deleted as much as possible. I did get one piece last week w/o a prepaid envelope and it was reduced to 1" by 1/4 i" confetti as have the occasional others w/o that envelope.
For the few bucks a year it costs, I more then repay myself with fuel and CG discounts so I continue to send some money to Marcus
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2011 Ford F250 6.7 Lariat CCLB, Gone but not forgotten
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (sold it!)
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03-26-2016, 07:00 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Hotsprings, Ar
Posts: 298
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The US Postal Service can use the money from the mail. But I do not want the emails.
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03-26-2016, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,651
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It's quite easy and convenient to stop GS junk mail, but it does require some effort.
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Originally Posted by MartySQ
Oh... their snail mail has been used all winter to get the fireplace lit to keep us warm....someone has to keep the postal company in business.
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The USPS has stated many times it stays in business because of this third-class mail (junk mail). I help the USPS by inserting the contents in the enclosed pre-paid envelope and returning it to the sender.
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2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD , ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA. " My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
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03-28-2016, 08:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Western New York
Posts: 899
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Don't mind the emails from CW with their sale items. For the most part CW is expensive on almost everything they sell, unless it is on sale. Bought a Progressive Industries 50A surge protector from them online by being notified by email of the sale. Price was by far the cheapest I had seen for the PI protector. Ironic too because they don't sell them in their stores. Any snail mail I receive pushing travel insurance and such goes into the garbage right out of the mail box with a couple of rips added for good measure.
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03-28-2016, 11:42 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,129
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It is obvious that Good Sam is an insurance company disguised as an RV club.
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'02 Adventurer 32V, Ford F-53, ours since 4/08,Hankooks, Konis, SeeLevel, CHF
'84 CJ-7 , 5.3 Chevy, 3" lift, 33's, Detroit Locker, Fiberglas tub, winch, hi-lift
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03-28-2016, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 19,925
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7ole
It is obvious that Good Sam is an insurance company disguised as an RV club.
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Good Sam is an RV business conglomerate. They are sistered with Camping World, so they have a foot in the door of RV sales, service and parts. In addition they have a campground 'certification' program for campgrounds to sign on to and offer small discounts for members. Many of the 'Good Sam' branded services are actually farmed out to other businesses. Insurance, roadside assistance, medical, finance, and a bunch of other inter-connections (Pilot, Flying J, etc.)
Most of their connections offer discounts or information that helps RVers. Some of their affiliated brands need work, (CW service?) but they generally try to help RV enthusiasts.
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Bob & Donna
'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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03-28-2016, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BFlinn181
Good Sam is an RV business conglomerate. They are sistered with Camping World, so they have a foot in the door of RV sales, service and parts. In addition they have a campground 'certification' program for campgrounds to sign on to and offer small discounts for members. Many of the 'Good Sam' branded services are actually farmed out to other businesses. Insurance, roadside assistance, medical, finance, and a bunch of other inter-connections (Pilot, Flying J, etc.)
Most of their connections offer discounts or information that helps RVers. Some of their affiliated brands need work, (CW service?) but they generally try to help RV enthusiasts.
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Yep, "partnered with" outside companies, very similar to FMCA, AAA, etc.
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2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD , ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA. " My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
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03-28-2016, 07:10 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,886
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7ole
It is obvious that Good Sam is an insurance company disguised as an RV club.
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They don't write insurance. As near as I can tell, they're a point-of-consumer marketing company. They sell consumer information and advertisement. And likely commissions on various sales.
Not saying that this is all bad.. they have consumer advocacy, but the junk mail exists for them to make money, which decreases costs of various memberships.
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03-28-2016, 07:32 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
It's quite easy and convenient to stop GS junk mail, but it does require some effort.
The USPS has stated many times it stays in business because of this third-class mail (junk mail). I help the USPS by inserting the contents in the enclosed pre-paid envelope and returning it to the sender.
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So if 3rd class mail keeps the USPS solvent why don't they raise the rates on it and make 1st class mail cost less?
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03-29-2016, 06:44 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7ole
It is obvious that Good Sam is an insurance company disguised as an RV club.
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I say that based on the wrapper that is always affixed to my Motorhome magazine that is trying to sell me insurance of some type for my MH. And virtually all of my GS snail mail trash is insurance related. Look here: Good Sam Vehicle Insurance - Travel Insurance - Life Insurance, RV insurance from there:
And: "We have solutions for all of your insurance needs. As a multi-line agency, we offer protection for your RV, personal auto and home, in addition to umbrella, renters, dwelling and fire, flood, commercial auto, motorcycle and more. Being an RV specialist, we offer unique coverages…"
I believe that they make their money on insurance and have acquired CW as an investment in line with their insurance market. And all of the other services are subservient to their insurance business. IMHO.
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'02 Adventurer 32V, Ford F-53, ours since 4/08,Hankooks, Konis, SeeLevel, CHF
'84 CJ-7 , 5.3 Chevy, 3" lift, 33's, Detroit Locker, Fiberglas tub, winch, hi-lift
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03-29-2016, 08:29 AM
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#25
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Senior Member
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 19,925
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If you apply for Good Sam RV insurance, you will be suddenly dealing with National General Insurance. It used to be GMAC, but they became a subsidiary of National General. I don't know or care to research the other insurance Good Sam offers, I'd assume it also is actually provided by other insurance companies. Good Sam makes money by tailoring and branding their services for RVers and receiving payments for the referrals. That way they make money without actually having to set up and take the risks of setting up insurance for such a narrow group as RV owners. Insurance companies depend on risk being spread over large groups over large regions.
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'98 Gulf Stream Sun Voyager DP being pushed by a '00 Beetle TDI
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03-29-2016, 09:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Western New York
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I think Good Sam took a hard left turn a few years back when Marcus Leonis took over the company after a fire sale. They turned from a RV advocacy group to a third party jobber selling member information and the promoting of such things as insurance. I think their mistake is Camping World because it gives the casual observer easy insight of how they approach business and customer relations.
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03-29-2016, 05:54 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincee
I think Good Sam took a hard left turn a few years back when Marcus Leonis took over the company after a fire sale. They turned from a RV advocacy group to a third party jobber selling member information and the promoting of such things as insurance. I think their mistake is Camping World because it gives the casual observer easy insight of how they approach business and customer relations.
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Many Camping World stores are not actually owned by CW. If you inspect the stores credentials it reads like this one: Stouts RV dba Camping World of Indianapolis. Stouts RV is a decades old business, now operated by CW. There was another in Jeffersonville, but the owner terminated the arrangement, now it's listed under the original name again.
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2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD , ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA. " My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
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03-29-2016, 06:09 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,812
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Junk mail from the Good Sam club
My city has an agressive recycling program. All my junk mail is saved for this. The only problem is the price is down in the dumper.
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