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03-04-2020, 02:42 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 412
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I just went over to TSD facebook page see what's new, lots of posts going on right now about call backs from P/FJ on comments being received at corporate P/FJ.
Here's an example posted 37 minutes ago
Keep up the pressure, P/FJ is getting the messages
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03-04-2020, 03:06 PM
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Sounds more like this TSD company lost it's contract with Flying J and are trying to pin the responsibility onto Good Sam rather than themselves as a public relations move. Otherwise, they wouldn't have stopped offering the program across their entire membership, not just RV owners since Good Sam has nothing to do with trucking. Most likely Flying J just decided TSD wasn't a program that was worth continuing. Like any good company it appears Flying J is culling out programs, processes, procedures and product lines that aren't profitable.
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03-04-2020, 03:25 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
Posts: 420
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Just emailed P/FJ, my displeasure!
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03-04-2020, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 2,392
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spy vs. Spy
Good Sam Enterprises Inc., does in fact benefit from income derived from its member fuel purchases at PFJ. This revenue stream has been in decline for several months. The inception of the TSD RV fuel program was identified as one of several contributing factors. Declining membership was also cited.
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Maybe GS needs to re-evaluate the amount of the savings they pocket. Won't be much revenue coming in for them if more and more RV owners get on the TSD bandwagon. Usually takes a newcomer like TSD to shake things up a bit and get the old companies to get inline with the new ways.
Their 8 cent discount may have seemed like a good thing once upon a time, but in light of the 30-40 cent (or more) discount we're getting from TSD's program no so much.
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03-04-2020, 05:05 PM
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#61
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: SJ, CA
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwmcguire
This fuel discount deal reminds me of the grocery green stamps or S&H back in the day
Similar to the Dish in the oatmeal
Why can't we just have a good price for all instead of the gimmicky deal with logistics ?
I can see loyalty discounts but the TSD thing seems more like Amway
Really watching this deal to see where it goes
I like to get a good price on fuel but sure don't plan on using a third part to do so
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Amway? Don’t think so. They are a major trucking logistics company. Just go to their website. They negotiated diesel prices with the major truck stop companies. They decided to pass on to RV’ers. The only $ they “take” for offering the service is !0% of the savings. On one of our fills we saved $37.05 off the posted price. They took $3.71 as their fee, giving us a savings of$33.34. We have saved $255 so far CA to FL to mid TX. The staff is really customer service oriented. You can even contact Joy Hansen, the CFO, by phone or email if you have questions. Or any of the other list of people they give you when you sign up. We are happy customers.
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03-04-2020, 05:14 PM
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#62
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Springfield, IL
Posts: 1,070
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HOAX!!!!!
The only way Pilot/Flying can refuse RVer using the TSD EFS card is to stop accepting all EFS cards.
Consider this: the pump doesn't know whether the rig taking on diesel is a pickup, semi, or RV; it only knows you are using an industry accepted credit card, in this case and EFS card.
Having said that, they can stop giving TSD a discount which will be noted on the fuel price site at TSDlogistics.com but they can not, I repeat, can not tell an RV operator they can not purchase diesel. The only way they would be able to tell RV operators they can not buy diesel there is to position an employee at each pump line to personally deny service which is so cost prohibitive no one in his right mind would even consider it.
Good Sam thought they had everything locked up with their agreement but TSD, and others, are doing nothing illegal. I personally will continue using my EFS card going to stations that give me the best price along my route. Being a Good Sam member doesn't require me to buy from them or only from providers they approve.
Enjoy your discount - drive safe - use that savings for dinner out.
See ya on the road - Richard
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03-04-2020, 05:56 PM
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#63
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Lakeland, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchstar53
Don’t need Facebook. At the top of their website that lists Truck Stop Pricing sheets for the day. And Pilot has been removed.
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Not sure what website, not seeing anything on TSD. The EFS app still lists Pilot/FJ prices.
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03-04-2020, 05:59 PM
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#64
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Merritt, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSM180
Not sure what website, not seeing anything on TSD. The EFS app still lists Pilot/FJ prices.
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Look at the Daily Rates page. I would post a link but you need to login to see it.
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03-04-2020, 06:21 PM
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#65
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichnSue
I just went over to TSD facebook page see what's new, lots of posts going on right now about call backs from P/FJ on comments being received at corporate P/FJ.
Here's an example posted 37 minutes ago
Attachment 276985
Keep up the pressure, P/FJ is getting the messages 
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But the person who called neither confirmed nor denied that P/FJ had in fact stopped giving the discount?
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03-04-2020, 06:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,354
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSM180
Not sure what website, not seeing anything on TSD. The EFS app still lists Pilot/FJ prices.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGed
Look at the Daily Rates page. I would post a link but you need to login to see it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PJStough
But the person who called neither confirmed nor denied that P/FJ had in fact stopped giving the discount?
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The notice from TSD was that the PFJ discount was going to end at the end of this week. In like three more days, so while it is there NOW... By next Monday it will be gone unless either PFJ or BadSam changes their minds. Sounds like they ARE getting the message though that this is not made people happy!
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03-04-2020, 06:32 PM
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#67
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,597
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrtribble
The only way Pilot/Flying can refuse RVer using the TSD EFS card is to stop accepting all EFS cards.
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The discount being denied is what the discussion focuses on. Some are taking a shortcut by saying the card will not be accepted, but the reality is the discount and incentive to use the card is what they mean.
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03-04-2020, 06:36 PM
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#68
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Lakeland, FL
Posts: 158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGed
Look at the Daily Rates page. I would post a link but you need to login to see it.
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Found it, thanks.
https://www.tsdlogistics.com/daily-rates/
From the link
"As of the end of the week, Pilot is officially retracting their discounts from our program due to their relationship with Good Sams. Good Sams has an exclusive contract with Pilot which prevents them from giving any discounts to the RV community through any other means. Every other discount is still in place."
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03-04-2020, 06:59 PM
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#69
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 573
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I will just go where the discount is available so if Pilot dropped TSD I will go across the street to Loves or TA. I suspect that will be the case with all of us with a TSD card. By myself it is nothing to notice but collectively as a group they will notice because we as a group buy quite a bit of fuel.
If we share the info with others we meet it will grow larger and benefit TSD as well as all of us. Honestly I did not use the GS card necessarily for the discount as it was not much but more for the convenience of running the card in the truck lanes and not having to go inside while traveling. However TSD has a great discount and the convenience of using the card at the pump so I'm with them 100 Percent. If Pilot can't or won't be part of that I'm okay with it they just wont sell me fuel.
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03-04-2020, 09:27 PM
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#70
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
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I’m going to call BS on this topic.
Just checked a few stations under both TSD and Gas Buddy and my card still shows a significant discount at both Pilot and FJ truck stops over the pump price.
Where did the initial reports come from...maybe a GS rep?
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