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LibbyLA · 09-29-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul R. Haller

Did you also know that alcohol abuse and cigarette smoking are statistically much more likely to occur when a person has 1 or more registered guns? I'm not saying that one leads to the other just that they share a personality trait associated with risky behavior. No surprise there.

Hmph. Most of the gun owners I know (and I know quite a few) abuse neither, and most of them don't smoke at all.

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Originally Posted by Paul R. Haller

We need tighter controls on what is sold and to whom and we need to enforce the lock up the gun rules as strongly as we enforce a DUI. If a jack azz is found with a gun under the car seat... we need to aggressively pursue legal action against them.

In some states, your car is considered an extension of your house, so what's wrong with having a gun under the seat? As for the "lock up the gun" rules (whatever those are), the police officer who taught the first concealed carry course I attended basically said that the only useful firearm is one that's loaded and has a round in the chamber. Locked up, unloaded, ammunition stored away from the gun, all useless.

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Originally Posted by Paul R. Haller

After 25 years all outdated weapons are considered contraband.

What about antiques? You'd ruin primitive weapons deer hunting season, as well.

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Originally Posted by Paul R. Haller

I have included some solutions to show a middle ground can be found.

Sorry, but nothing you have offered is middle anything. Enforce the laws we have. We don't need any new, more restrictive laws.

liz

**NLOVNIT** · 09-29-2011, 10:00 PM

Ahem! The OP's question is: How many RVers carry guns?

Let's get back on that topic & off the attacks.

Lori-

TXiceman · 09-29-2011, 10:06 PM

If you are going to carry a gun, we were told to keep it loaded. If you are concerned with children, get one of the biometric lock small gun safes. Locate it in a convenient location, but bolt it down. This way it is locked, you have ready access if the need arises.

Our CHL class told us what you call an unloaded gun......a club.

Ken

Chuck 1935 · 09-29-2011, 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=Paul R. Haller;971024] Did you also know that alcohol abuse and cigarette smoking are statistically much more likely to occur when a person has 1 or more registered guns? I'm not saying that one leads to the other just that they share a personality trait associated with risky behavior. No surprise there.
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Francesca · 09-30-2011, 01:02 PM

I don't understand that statement, to tell you the truth.

..."one or more registered guns"???

Does that mean that people that don't drink or smoke (cigarettes

) are more likely to have unregistered guns?????

Francesca

LibbyLA · 09-30-2011, 01:12 PM

Just sailed right by the "registered" guns part. In Louisiana, I'm not sure there's any such thing as a "registered" gun. Maybe for some of the really heavy stuff that requires special licenses and fees, but not for the typical firearms.

I suspect that that so-called "correlation" is "suspect..."

liz

Francesca · 09-30-2011, 01:24 PM

Well, I guess it doesn't really matter much as far as I'm concerned...
I'm just trying to figure out what works for me...

Statistics are one thing, me alone on the road is something else!

Francesca

chasfm11 · 09-30-2011, 01:35 PM

Texas has no registration for guns. In order to purchase one, you need to either have a concealed handgun license or to pass a NCIC (National Crime Information Center) check. I've never seen anything that resembled a statistical basis for gun ownership in this State. You can sell and trade firearms FTF (face to face) and there are no records of any of those transactions.

That's why it is an interesting discussion about how many RVers have guns. I've made it a point of looking for bumper stickers on RVs and TVs in our local CGs. There are a lot of them that have hunting related or NRA decals so I'd assume that all of them at least own guns. The State Parks have a prohibition again firearms (mostly to stop poaching) but they also have a prohibition again alcohol consumption that is seldom enforced. I suspect that it was take some flagrant abuse in either case to cause them to pursue action against a camper. I'd guess that nearly 70% of the State park vehicles have hints of gun ownership.

There are fewer hunting and NRA stickers in the commercial CGs here. Still, my estimate is that there are about 30% that have those stickers.

I know that in States like NJ, the numbers might not be that high. Still, NY and NJ have a lot of hunters. It would be hard to come up with anything close to real statistics. NJ does have some firearm registration rules.

Francesca · 09-30-2011, 02:07 PM

Interesting...
I wonder if the sticker alone confers some protection...

On the other hand, could it advertise something valuable to steal???

Francesca

Route 66 · 09-30-2011, 05:30 PM

IMHO, advertising you have guns could make your rig a burglary target.

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Originally Posted by Francesca

Interesting...
I wonder if the sticker alone confers some protection...

On the other hand, could it advertise something valuable to steal???

Francesca

majorloser · 09-30-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Route 66

IMHO, advertising you have guns could make your rig a burglary target.

I agree. It would be better just to make your rig look occupied all the times with lights on and stay in areas with other people. Burgulars are going to always hit the easy targets. The lone trailer that looks empty would be a prime target.

Kablewizard · 09-30-2011, 06:39 PM

The other problem with the sign would be if your in the wrong state the folks with the lites on their roofs might want to pull you over and do some serious checking.

Francesca · 09-30-2011, 08:52 PM

Yikes!

Not that I have anything to hide, but with my luck they'd probably find a twenty year old maryjoowanna butt left behind by a previous owner...

Francesca

mikron · 09-30-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by abqandy

Yes, I carry. Not too long ago a couple in NM was murdered in their RV by some escaped prisoners. The trailer was was burned to the ground with their bodies in it and they stole the tow vehicle. Perhaps if they had a weapon they would still be alive?

they couldn't be any worse off thats for sure.