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Monacoach · 02-26-2011, 06:58 AM

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The sad fact is, far too many in threads like this continue to reply based upon their assumption that FUEL price ALONE is the deciding factor in their RVing plans -

Fuel prices are the single most expensive and critical component of Rving and all the related rises in the cost of living do not have the immediate and huge impact as fuel costs on this life style. Sad as you may think it is for us to feel that fuel prices alone are the deciding factor in our lifestyle, it is very much real and true.

RonK · 02-26-2011, 08:03 AM

Here is an example of the real cost and impact of the rising fuel cost. We will be leaving Florida from the Punta Gorda area. 1060 miles to home at 8.3 mpg, $3.79/gal current cost. This works out to $484 and the per mile cost is ~$0.45. Was paying $3.18 when we left Ohio for a total cost of $406. That's an increase of $78.00 or 16% greater. You might think about it as 1 to 2 days less vacation at a campground to make up the difference.

Crabby Mike · 02-26-2011, 08:49 AM

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How'ed you guys vote? HA

Not sure I get your point here. What's going on in global oil markets today has zero to do with U.S. party politics. Despite claims to the contrary by both sides, neither party has advanced any kind of sensible energy policy in decades (at least). And I say this having worked the past 25 years at the Department of Energy, where we had to train the "new guys" in every incoming administration, who invariably had little or no actual knowledge of energy economics.

Midniteoyl · 02-26-2011, 09:36 AM

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where we had to train the "new guys" in every incoming administration, who invariably had little or no actual knowledge of energy economics.

Now THATs the truth! Every single one of these elected and appointed officials have now actual clue as to what is really going on... Whole reason I tend to ignore 90% of what they say.

Gary - K7GLD · 02-26-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Monacoach

Fuel prices are the single most expensive and critical component of Rving and all the related rises in the cost of living do not have the immediate and huge impact as fuel costs on this life style. Sad as you may think it is for us to feel that fuel prices alone are the deciding factor in our lifestyle, it is very much real and true.

Only true if you are willing to ignore the similarly increased cost of the RV space you probably sat in, the cost of your food, the cost of the lube used in your rig - lubricating oil now costs about double what it was 10 years ago - and how soon will you be needing new tires? Bring money - LOTS of it!

And the list goes on, and on, and...

SURE, the $$$ increase in fuel becomes highly visible when out traveling on the open road with the RV when the tank needs refilling daily - but if you take time to total those OTHER related costs, THEIR percentages are not to be passed off lightly as their own additional cost of your RVing experience either - you just don't SEE them as a lump sum as you do the fuel cost...

Fuel cost only seemingly looms larger because it hits harder in lump sums while actually traveling - those OTHER price increases are with you steadily daily, and EVERY day, whether you are traveling or not!

DCMAC214 · 02-26-2011, 10:02 AM

The real issue isn't what will you do with your RV with that kind of fuel price. It's how will you live thru the depression it will cause. If oil prices soar to +$200/barrel like some news pundits are predicting the coming world depression will make the Great Depression of the 20s look like a cake walk.
DC

Gary - K7GLD · 02-26-2011, 10:14 AM

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The real issue isn't what will you do with your RV with that kind of fuel price. It's how will you live thru the depression it will cause. If oil prices soar to +$200/barrel like some news pundits are predicting the coming world depression will make the Great Depression of the 20s look like a cake walk.
DC

EXACTLY!

Sad that so few can see it coming, and are/will be totally unprepared when it arrives!

It's really HARD to wake folks up as to where we are, and are inevitably headed - most here have never SEEN truly hard times - and choose to live in denial that it can, and WILL happen here...

"Until the flood came - and swept them all away..."

Matthew 24:39

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**CLIFFTALL** · 02-26-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crabby Mike

Not sure I get your point here. What's going on in global oil markets today has zero to do with U.S. party politics. Despite claims to the contrary by both sides, neither party has advanced any kind of sensible energy policy in decades (at least). And I say this having worked the past 25 years at the Department of Energy, where we had to train the "new guys" in every incoming administration, who invariably had little or no actual knowledge of energy economics.

Thank you.

HoboPals · 02-26-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary - K7GLD

EXACTLY!

Sad that so few can see it coming, and are/will be totally unprepared when it arrives!

It's really HARD to wake folks up as to where we are, and are inevitably headed - most here have never SEEN truly hard times - and choose to live in denial that it can, and WILL happen here...
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I think I would take my trailer, find some way out of the way BLM land in the woods, near a stream, and I'd plant the trailer and a garden, and walk my pup and read. Now, to get my kids to buy into the plan. They haven't got a clue.

I once had a neighbor who told me she was raised on a farm, and when the rest of the country was on soup lines, they were eating fine.

Gary - K7GLD · 02-26-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HoboPals

I think I would take my trailer, find some way out of the way BLM land in the woods, near a stream, and I'd plant the trailer and a garden, and walk my pup and read. Now, to get my kids to buy into the plan. They haven't got a clue.

I once had a neighbor who told me she was raised on a farm, and when the rest of the country was on soup lines, they were eating fine.

YUP - we farmers wore clothes with lots of patches - but we had shelter and ate well...

I suppose religion might be as taboo as politics here - but THIS is what is Biblically predicted for this time in history - and *I* can sure see it coming down the path in our direction:

"and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time" (Daniel 12:1)."

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Indian Creek · 02-26-2011, 10:42 AM

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Fox news is quoting a former Shell exec as saying that gasoline will be $5.00 a gallon within two years and that there will be rationing by the end of the decade.

Could anyone afford $5.00 a gallon gas?

And as far as rationing, would anyone even consider traveling much less take the risk of starting out and getting stranded??

I have 3 responses:
#1. Who would ration gas when they're getting $5 per gallon?
#2. Going to sleep every night is a risk.
#3. I waited 40 years for this, I'll do it until there isn't a cent left.

Try to enjoy your life, there's plenty of time to panic.

motojavaphil · 02-26-2011, 11:14 AM

I filled up my truck a week and one half ago at $3.09. I drove by the same station this past Thursday and it was posting $3.19. I again drove by there on Friday and found gas had gone to $3.29. Ten cents in one day

! The owner must like his nines

but .20 in roughly ten days reminds me of the embargo days. We are going over to get diesel today, $3.75 last night

, and wish I had done it last week. Then again in a few weeks I will think this is a bargain! Who knows

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Gary - K7GLD · 02-26-2011, 11:19 AM

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Try to enjoy your life, there's plenty of time to panic.

As I recall, that was the tune the band was playing as the Titanic disappeared under the waves...

jodann · 02-26-2011, 11:27 AM

I am in the process of signing up for a seasonal sight at a cg that we enjoy visiting & had in the past spent a month at a time there. Will give it a shot for this year & we can always visit the travel trailer at our leisure & at 30+ miles per gallon in our 4 cylinder car.

The gas at my local station went up 10 cents per gallon overnight & has increased a total of 15 cents this past week. They are a chain of stations & their prices have little to do with reality. I spoke with the manager & he had told me that they price their gas in accordance to what the local 'little guys' are charging & usually undercut them by a few pennies.