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Old 11-23-2021, 05:10 PM   #183
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Yes. The stinky art students smoking the stinky cigarettes(pot) gave everyone the "V" sign. Forgot about that. Then, they ran away to Canada.
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Since contemporary cars have much better performance, handling and brakes than 50 years ago, I believe that a lot of drivers take advantage of this change and wonder if this is considered when establishing Design Speed for a section of new road.
I was in the industry a lot less than 50 years ago but would have no hesitation in thinking there may be some correlation between the two. Some of the main items would be items like reaction time, traction, as well possibly as the items you mentioned. However if the increased performance of vehicles is to be considered you might also consider the reduction of driver performance such as inattention and attitude.
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Interesting..curious if that design (slope,radius etc) is for a car or rated for a semi... for me
to feel safe on a banked curve in my rv i certainly
Go much slower than i would in a car.
Semis are more stable and planted than my dually
And trailer.
I am in no hurry to get to my destination. We usually plan a move in 4 hr increments(gps) which usually ends up 5 to 6 hrs. We have dogs and lunch breaks.. i am also a hyper miler i try to conserve diesel the best i can there is a huge
difference in mpg from 50 to 65 and 65 to 80 Pulling a 10x8 wall down the road im sure wind resistance plays a big part .
Getting off the screaming highway i find it more
relaxing. There are some good routes that are toll
Free and generally not a lot of stop lights and small towns to slow you down. And will save a ton
Of diesel.
Since both cars and semis use the same roadway I expect the criteria considers both. Semis have a lower speed limit and in some cases the speed limit is substantially lower than for cars.
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I'm not sure which is worse; inattention or attitude. I am beginning to see more evidence, like lurid skid marks, of a single vehicle leaving the pavement. I guess the attitude than nothing can happen while talking or texting on the cell phone causes the inattention that causes something to happen.

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I was in the industry a lot less than 50 years ago but would have no hesitation in thinking there may be some correlation between the two. Some of the main items would be items like reaction time, traction, as well possibly as the items you mentioned. However if the increased performance of vehicles is to be considered you might also consider the reduction of driver performance such as inattention and attitude.
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I'm not sure which is worse; inattention or attitude. I am beginning to see more evidence, like lurid skid marks, of a single vehicle leaving the pavement. I guess the attitude than nothing can happen while talking or texting on the cell phone causes the inattention that causes something to happen.
Part of my career involved management of abut 2000 miles of highways. One of the worst jobs in the position was investigating fatal accidents to determine if the highway was not to specifications at the site. Many of the accidents were single vehicle and the police accident report generally listed high speed as a contributor.

By the time I visited the site the accident was days or weeks old so the debris had been cleaned up. In spite of the cleanup there was the sad part of finding small or parts of children's toys at the scene.
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