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Old 12-01-2021, 06:47 PM   #1
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Is there any real difference in electrical outlets or switches in the Trailer

I have to replace an outlet in the Trailer talking AC outlet. Do I need to buy one made for an RV or can I use a residential one for your home. It seems to me a one that you find in your home is more robust than The one that is installed in the Trailer.
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I have to replace an outlet in the Trailer talking AC outlet. Do I need to buy one made for an RV or can I use a residential one for your home. It seems to me a one that you find in your home is more robust than The one that is installed in the Trailer.
most all the 110/120 ac stuff in your trailer or rv is household industrial common apparatus, I'm sure the 49cent bulk bin ones from the big box stores will be fine... but go ahead and get the better quality that are usually under $2 and have the full metal back strap and better connections... you can even get hospital grade outlets.. (much harder to unplug) most all of them have rear stab-locks... jmho
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That all depends.....You will need to remove the plug and look at it. Some of the RV plugs are self contained meaning they do not require an electrical box. They usually just use press electrical connectors, which I personally do not like, but they are then totally contained and include two small tabs (shown in picture white and located on the lower corner) that hold the plug in-place. I know when I remodeled a coach, I added residential existing construction shallow boxes then used standard receptacles.
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In my experience you can use the 110 from the big box stores. I just added a new outlet in our motorhome this summer. No problems, I actually prefer the normal house style.
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Old 12-01-2021, 07:30 PM   #5
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I agree, pull the cover to see if there's a box.
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When I opened up a receptacle in my Hitchhiker, it had the "RV" style receptacle. The romex that feeds that receptacle would have been too short to install a shallow box and a standard receptacle.


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When I opened up a receptacle in my Hitchhiker, it had the "RV" style receptacle.
Just for the record, it is not an unique "RV Style" receptacle. It's a standard, NEC-approved outlet type called "Self-contained". You don't see them much in homes or offices because they are designed for shallow-wall installations. RVs and older manufactured homes used them a lot. Ditto for modular office partitions and other construction where there isn't room for the more common full-depth box & outlet.
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The "punch-down" outlets used in RV's need to be banned. So should the stab holes in common residential/commercial fixtures. They all employ high resistance minimal contact connections that fail whenever higher loads are plugged in. The reason so many wary people upgrade and use the binding screws while doing so.
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The "punch-down" outlets used in RV's need to be banned. So should the stab holes in common residential/commercial fixtures. They all employ high resistance minimal contact connections that fail whenever higher loads are plugged in. The reason so many wary people upgrade and use the binding screws while doing so.

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The "punch-down" outlets used in RV's need to be banned. So should the stab holes in common residential/commercial fixtures. They all employ high resistance minimal contact connections that fail whenever higher loads are plugged in. The reason so many wary people upgrade and use the binding screws while doing so.
I do believe that if they are as bad as you say they would be banned.

My house used stab wire receptcals and in 30 years only had one fail. Didn't burn, just lost down stream outlets.

Had RVs thru the years and never had one fail.
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Had 2 fail in the Tiffin Allegro 31IA. Neighbor had one burn in his 5th wheel. Others on IRV2 have reported similar. Had a stick house in Neshaminy valley that had stabbed outlets and switches. So did all the neighbors. After one place burned down the electricians descended into the valley.
Some of the threads here have involved posters having difficulties with their home based shore power connections to 15 and 20 amp outlets that were merely stabbed.
As always, your results may vary.
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That all depends.....You will need to remove the plug and look at it. Some of the RV plugs are self contained meaning they do not require an electrical box. They usually just use press electrical connectors, which I personally do not like, but they are then totally contained and include two small tabs (shown in picture white and located on the lower corner) that hold the plug in-place. I know when I remodeled a coach, I added residential existing construction shallow boxes then used standard receptacles.

Yup, this. I've replaced a few of them and the self contained ones can be hard to work with. Haven't had a problem changing them to receptacles that aren't the self contained kind. We've upgraded a few to add USB charging ports, but they take up some depth that the self contained ones don't. Gotta open it up to have a peek and then decide. Don't lose the little wings inside the wall though.
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most all the 110/120 ac stuff in your trailer or rv is household industrial common apparatus, I'm sure the 49cent bulk bin ones from the big box stores will be fine... but go ahead and get the better quality that are usually under $2 and have the full metal back strap and better connections... you can even get hospital grade outlets.. (much harder to unplug) most all of them have rear stab-locks... jmho
I'm familiar with hospital grade outlets. They're definitely heavy duty with firm tension. For that reason, I can't think of many places to use one in cheaply paneled, thin walls that most RVs have. I can see it loosening and/or being ripped right out after a few times of use.
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I'm familiar with hospital grade outlets. They're definitely heavy duty with firm tension. For that reason, I can't think of many places to use one in cheaply paneled, thin walls that most RVs have. I can see it loosening and/or being ripped right out after a few times of use.
I would think for items that stay plugged in refrig, microwave...anything that might would come loose during travels I use them often where i do not intend for them ever to be unplugged except for service... this is the self contained https://www.ebay.com/itm/193187717069
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