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10-04-2022, 04:53 PM
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It’s pretty bad in Florida
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10-04-2022, 05:14 PM
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The day after the hurricane 6 insurance companies in FL filed for bankruptcy, or so I read.
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10-05-2022, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
The day after the hurricane 6 insurance companies in FL filed for bankruptcy, or so I read.
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I know there are circumstances beyond a person's control but it's still amazing to see the images of the many RVs destroyed. There was plenty of warning so I have to wonder why so many were left behind? 
Sad to say, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these were left by people that were in over their head and hoping to get an insurance payout. 
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10-05-2022, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudfrog
I know there are circumstances beyond a person's control but it's still amazing to see the images of the many RVs destroyed. There was plenty of warning so I have to wonder why so many were left behind?
Sad to say, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these were left by people that were in over their head and hoping to get an insurance payout. |
I think many snowbirds leave their RVs behind when heading north. The storage facilities are packed with them. They don't want to haul it back and forth.
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10-05-2022, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudfrog
I know there are circumstances beyond a person's control but it's still amazing to see the images of the many RVs destroyed. There was plenty of warning so I have to wonder why so many were left behind?
Sad to say, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these were left by people that were in over their head and hoping to get an insurance payout. |
But how many times is there a projected path that ends up being way off, and or not nearly as strong as predicted.
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10-05-2022, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudfrog
I know there are circumstances beyond a person's control but it's still amazing to see the images of the many RVs destroyed. There was plenty of warning so I have to wonder why so many were left behind?
Sad to say, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these were left by people that were in over their head and hoping to get an insurance payout. |
Same thing could be said about all the boats.
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10-05-2022, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Curtass
But how many times is there a projected path that ends up being way off, and or not nearly as strong as predicted.
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They are getting a lot better lately.
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10-05-2022, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RVStitchy
They are getting a lot better lately.
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NO. At least with IAN forecast tracks varied widely, and I only know of one that had it going inland near Fort Myers and over to the east coast.
I can say that, as we live in Fort Myers and with a sailing background followed all the models closely.
Then watched 140+ MPH winds and 8-10' storm surge and the damage they did from our window (the destroyed marina shown on most media is one mile directly across the river from us). NOT a pretty sight.
Went to bed the night before with most models having IAN pass offshore with maybe 50 MPH winds in Fort Myers-- NOT!
Maybe next one/next season.
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10-05-2022, 04:30 PM
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It’s pretty bad in Florida
20/20 hindsight is always easy, but hopefully lessons will be learned from Ian.
The problem is that too much attention is always focused on the path of the hurricane, and not on the cone of uncertainty. If you followed the spaghetti models on Ian, there was much more variance in the models than had been typical with other
hurricanes. This was true up to the day before Ian made landfall. This variance in the models should have made the focus on the cone that much more important.
Furthermore, people need to learn that time and time again, it’s the storm surge that does the most damage. I saw a detailed inundation model that showed the areas most prone to storm surge flooding in the Cape Coral/Fort Meyers area. I suspect these graphics never made the local news.
Here’s the history of the predicted path which also shows the cone of uncertainty. FWIW, even when Ian was predicted to track towards Tallahassee, the Cape Coral area was still at the edge of the cone. A Hurricane watch was issued at 5:00 am Monday, which was elevated to a warning 12 hrs later.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/202..._line_and_wind
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10-05-2022, 07:37 PM
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Has anyone heard any reports about Seminole RV Park in Fort Myers?
We have tried calling and all it says is the mailbox is full and cannot accepted any more messages.
Any information would be appreciated.
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10-05-2022, 08:15 PM
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A surge warning was posted for that area by NHC on 9/26, TWO DAYS BEFORE LANDFALL. UKMET held a track over that area for SIX DAYS BEFORE LANDFALL. It was always "in the cone."
How much warning is needed?
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10-06-2022, 03:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Curtass
But how many times is there a projected path that ends up being way off, and or not nearly as strong as predicted.
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That is what happened, Ian took a sudden turn East, when models showed Ian headed for Tampa area.
That's why the hullabalu about lack of advance warning now.
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10-06-2022, 04:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudfrog
I know there are circumstances beyond a person's control but it's still amazing to see the images of the many RVs destroyed. There was plenty of warning so I have to wonder why so many were left behind?
Sad to say, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these were left by people that were in over their head and hoping to get an insurance payout. |
It is not so simple as that. I have friends who own a boat, an RV, and two cars in the hurricane zone. At the time of the storm they were in Utah with their RV and truck. How are they supposed to evacuate the boat and cars from Florida as well as protect their house?
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10-06-2022, 05:45 AM
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I returned home to my SW Florida home after being out in our fifth wheel for 9 weeks. While our house sustained minor damage, the area around me is in total devastation. So sad to see. Some folks lost everything.
Taking the fifth wheel to the storage yard today and I’m going to get to work on cleaning up the yard. My subdivision doesn’t look the same.
Hopefully we don’t see another hurricane like that for a long time.
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