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01-26-2022, 04:11 PM
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Well, That explains the top quality products being turned out with Never a return for anything that got missed at the factory . Including the meticulous attention to detail in the final quality control inspection before ANY unit is delivered !
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01-26-2022, 04:16 PM
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Do those salaries result in a high-quality product? Hope so, as we are purchasing a 2021 (or 2022 per the build sheet) Entegra Vision next week and hoping the quality is as good as our fifth wheel trailers (Everest, Montana High Country and Montana) have been over the last 18 years and only minor, but easily repairable, moulding issues with the High Country.
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01-26-2022, 07:42 PM
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If Jayco were paying everyone on the line $50 an hour, I doubt there'd be any turnover to speak of. Nope, someone heard $15 and thought it was $50.
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01-26-2022, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Camp CA
Do those salaries result in a high-quality product? Hope so, as we are purchasing a 2021 (or 2022 per the build sheet) Entegra Vision next week and hoping the quality is as good as our fifth wheel trailers (Everest, Montana High Country and Montana) have been over the last 18 years and only minor, but easily repairable, moulding issues with the High Country.
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Doubt quality is better. More money means a more stable workforce. Jayco's not going to tell the worker to slow down and do a better job because they're paying them more.
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01-27-2022, 05:21 AM
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With all the demands for 15$ min wage going on , someone obviously heard 15 as 50. they were probably touting they paid $15 or more to everyone.
Economics 101 pay more to employees… product price goes up. There is no magic hidden bucket of money. Everyone else needs more to stay even with where they were .. inflation.
The cost of rv’s is ridiculous. I’m looking at downsizing as it appears “everyone” of us retired and COVID/ closed business tired “ex” Full timers seem to be. At the Tampa show Pricing on small ( all) rigs has gone through the roof! I can’t imagine why the crash isn’t coming.
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01-27-2022, 08:09 AM
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shelby, i do not think it was off one way or the other. there is a worker shortage in prescott az.
the market and demand sets wages, not any one person, or any one job. i work at a very well paid job. my wages are far beyond that, and i feel i earn that pay.
today, its difficult to find someone willing to work, and qualified to do the job. just a warm and willing body is all that is required for some jobs. even those folks are hard to find, in some areas, like prescott.
if a person is offering 16 to 18 dollars to start, its because that is what the market and demand calls for. other areas, where starting workers are plentiful, like florida, the starting wages are 11 to 14 dollars to start. that i think is low. not a living wage at all.
you misread my post, or assumed i didnt approve of the pay. i was just stating a fact, not my opinion.
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01-27-2022, 12:35 PM
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Sorry to be blunt, but says who?
It may just be the metaphorical "burger joint" but other restaurants pay about the same. Why is cooking so looked down upon as a career? So many go into it with passion and a drive to change things, only to realize the pay is too low to make an actual living.
Until we value these types of employees, we'll always have a problem.
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01-27-2022, 01:40 PM
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Jayco salaries
I managed McDonalds restaurants for almost 20 years. Back in “ the day” these were 16 year olds first job. They knew nothing. It was a learning job how to work hard ,work together ,get up for work on time etc… they were never meant to be careers except if you were in management. We hired several moms ( not politically correct term anymore) to work the lunch rush so they could be home for the kids when they got out of school just for a little “extra” family income.
Different world. Now they eliminate people for machinery / computers because people won’t pay the price for burgers that increased wages bring. Crazy world. So glad I left it 30 + years ago.
What do those kids with no skills do now? Nothing it seems.
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01-27-2022, 01:47 PM
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I managed McDonalds restaurants for almost 20 years. Back in “ the day” these were 16 year olds first job. They knew nothing. It was a learning job how to work hard ,work together ,get up for work on time etc… they were never meant to be carriers except if you were in management. We hired several moms ( not politically correct term anymore) to work the lunch rush so they could be home for the kids when they got out of school just for a little “extra” family income.
Different world. Now they eliminate people for machinery / computers because people won’t pay the price for burgers that increased wages bring. Crazy world. So glad I left it 30 + years ago.
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I was in a Mickey D’s a couple of years ago and it was all automated. I ordered on a touchscreen and could see the automated machinery go into action and watched it cook, have all the things added and wrapped and never saw a person behind the counter.
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01-27-2022, 05:53 PM
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Well since there is an announcement today that they are now a sponsor here, maybe ask them?
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01-29-2022, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by propchef
Sorry to be blunt, but says who?
It may just be the metaphorical "burger joint" but other restaurants pay about the same. Why is cooking so looked down upon as a career? So many go into it with passion and a drive to change things, only to realize the pay is too low to make an actual living.
Until we value these types of employees, we'll always have a problem.
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I say so............
Worked fast food, bus boy, waiting tables, cooks helper.....
other than Management/CHEF the folks got paid below entry level wages as it wasn't meant to be a career job but an entry level job to gain work experience and learn some skills
Different when you talk about high end restaurants...... not talking Gordan Ramsay.
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