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Old 05-13-2022, 06:13 AM   #15
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...........................Worst case if i where in your boat, order a new latch and get destructive with the old one. .............A lock is easy and universal to get. A window is most definitely not and harder to replace.
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Over the years I have worked on a ton of damaged car/van/truck/camper doors that were broken/smashed/bent.
This is how we do it at the shop.

The handle is already broken, you ain't gonna hurt it.

By what ever means, carefully get as much as you can out of the way, without marring the door itself, and eventually you will see whatever rod/lever/pin that actuates the latch.
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Old 05-13-2022, 06:39 AM   #16
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I've noticed on my entry door the hinges are on the outside. Maybe it could be like a regular door where you can drive the hinge pins out and just remove the door?

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Old 05-13-2022, 12:20 PM   #17
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I've read on here several times where people got locked out because their lockset had failed. First time was probably around 5 years ago and ever since then, we've kept one of the higher windows unlatched.

But if I ever had to break in another way, I believe I could come in from the front 14 x 14 vent. I'm sure I would have to break the plastic but once it was out of the way, shouldn't be that hard to push a long rod/stick through (would have to make a slit in the mesh screen) and then over to the side window latch. The latch levers upward so I'd imagine it being easy to disengage from the angle I was coming in from. I'm thinking a fishing rod would work since its tip is at a right angle that could be used for pulling the latch. Would be fairly easy to repair the screen and replace the plastic vent cover afterwards.
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OP, will you let us know if you have gotten in, and how you managed it?
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New idea...
Drop top MH, idk if you would be the first. But I have never seen one. Bust out the sawzall and cut the roof! Joke btw
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The above triggered my brain. Drill a hole big enough to accept the sawzall blade and cut out the guts of the latch. Just be careful you don't cut into the body of the door.
It would probably take 10 minutes, not hours. Darn it, one more thing to carry with us.
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Old 05-14-2022, 09:17 AM   #21
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The above triggered my brain. Drill a hole big enough to accept the sawzall blade and cut out the guts of the latch. Just be careful you don't cut into the body of the door.
It would probably take 10 minutes, not hours. Darn it, one more thing to carry with us.
I'm thinking that something like a 1 to 2 inch hole saw could be used to drill into the lockset. Once the hole was made, reach in with needle nose pliers or screwdriver to retract the latch.

A drill and hole saw set would take up less room and be easier to store.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:32 PM   #22
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Take a look at your window latches. Is it possible to drill a small hole thru the window frame to allow a steel punch or steel wire to be inserted to push the latch open? I am talking about a small hole. One that could later be concealed with some black RTV.

Some on this forum have used this method to open a window and crawl thru.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:09 PM   #23
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1) I saw a post earlier this week that said to drill a small hole in the window frame just below a window latch, insert a small screw driver to push the latch open, fill the hole with black sealant.

2) I saw a document for a Tiffin Phaeton where the outer lock wouldn't work, they showed how to drill a 1/2" hole with a hole saw the you can grab the right rod with needle nose/or surgical clamp and pull down with will release the latch mechanism

3) I'll bet if you use a large enough hole saw on the exterior lock you can create an opening big enough to access the mechanism/rods to figure out how to release it. Then replace the exterior lock

may or may not work for your rig.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:49 PM   #24
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Don't think a locksmith will be able to help you with a unlocked door, and broken / failed linkage.
Nevertheless, contact a locksmith. Also try a towing service.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:55 PM   #25
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Don't destroy anything except the latch!

Breaking a window or vent just causes more damage. Drilling a hole in a window frame may or may not let you open the window, and will be a hole for water to leak inside. Since you have been having a hard time opening the door for some time maybe the door is misalaigned and binding. The bottle jack idea may work.
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Since the OP never replied after his initial post perhaps he has fixed his issue. However in looking at the you tube video posted above about a lock issue on a '08 Tiffin Phaeton, the lock on my American Coach is very similar. Mine failed and the door would not open from the outside or the inside. After being locked in, I was very lucky to after jiggling the lock mechanism for several minutes, finally able to unlock the door. A small spring which can be seen in the video had broken and when replaced it worked fine. I did notice this spring only came into play when the door was locked, not when it was simply closed and latched shut but not locked.
This is a serious issue that can prevent exiting the coach. I disabled the locking portion of the latch mechanism even though a new spring fixed the issue. I use the dead bolt to lock the door.
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I don't know if this will help the OP (He's / She's MIA). Dropping a child down through a vent might be a viable option but only if you are absolutely sure you can get the child back up and out if they fail. If the child failed and panicked it would only add to the emergency and could result in unnecessary damage to a door or window to get the child out.
Instead of having a child try to repair or jimmy a door lock a simpler solution would be to have the child unlock a window so an adult can enter the RV and operate or repair the door lock.
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I don't know if this will help the OP (He's / She's MIA). Dropping a child down through a vent might be a viable option but only if you are absolutely sure you can get the child back up and out if they fail. If the child failed and panicked it would only add to the emergency and could result in unnecessary damage to a door or window to get the child out.
Instead of having a child try to repair or jimmy a door lock a simpler solution would be to have the child unlock a window so an adult can enter the RV and operate or repair the door lock.
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