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smokeyjo · 01-06-2009, 04:44 PM

I just drove from Maryland to Florida last week. I drive around 60 mph. I was beginning to panic because the way all the other RV's were passing me like I was standing still I was afraid maybe I wouldn't get to FL before it broke off and floated into the sea. It was like I didn't get the memo that there was a deadline for arriving in FL. The funny part was that for the most part, I still ran into most of them again as a result of a fuel stop or rest stop. I always thought RVing was supposed to be a relaxing activity. Hard to enjoy the scenery when it is a blur. As for not having to stop suddenly on an interstate as someone suggested, what roads have you been traveling on? I have had numerous occasions of sudden stops either because of an accident or construction, or just some idiot that pulls over in front of me. Just my observations.

zigzagrv · 01-07-2009, 05:42 AM

I come from the old school where we were taught to respect authority and obey laws, including speed limits. Then came the 60's where the mantra was to challenge authority and simply do what feels good. Hence we have the type of drivers we see on the road today. 'Get out of my way, you're interfering with my right to do as I want'. Personal resposibility has been replaced by selfishness.

I drive at or slightly above the speed limit. I try to follow the flow of traffic, but I refuse to go 70-75 mph, just to keep up with traffic.

As far as the GW issue is concerned, we were also taught in the 'old school' to THINK, and not just accept what we were told or read.

Recent observations show the temps on other planets has risen as well as the earth's. The common denominator.......the SUN. I don't think anyone would argue that man has caused the temp of MARS to increase, except maybe the most radical of GW alarmists.

And lastly, consensus does NOT = fact, just as education does not necessarily = intelligence.

Tom N · 01-07-2009, 06:59 AM

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I just drove from Maryland to Florida last week. I drive around 60 mph.

If you were towing a trailer or a car and you drove 60 mph in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina or Georgia you were exceeding the speed limit. All these states have maximum 55 mph when towing laws.

[Source: http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm]

-Tom

historyljc · 01-07-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by Tom N:

If you were towing a trailer or a car and you drove 60 mph in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina or Georgia you were exceeding the speed limit. All these states have maximum 55 mph when towing laws.

[Source: http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm]

-Tom

Looks like I'm guilty in 3 out of four. Haven't had the rig in Virginia yet.

Tom N · 01-07-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by historyljc:
Looks like I'm guilty in 3 out of four. Haven't had the rig in Virginia yet.

So am I. Maybe I'll turn myself in but I think the police would have a good laugh if I did.

-Tom

melvonnar · 01-07-2009, 03:01 PM

Glad to know this information----I always drive 50 to 55 through these states---been honked at; swore at; given the Florida greeting; (third finger salute) just glad to know that I"m within the speed limits.

have a nice day

hamguy · 01-07-2009, 03:29 PM

RobertH

I am trying my darnedest to figure out the meaning/correlation in your -

"as soon as detroit unloads all their gas guslers, the price of gas will go up."

hamguy · 01-07-2009, 03:43 PM

jspande,

re-"The only fraud is that of the Global Warming Deny-ers."

Please explain the fact that the last 11 years are the coolest in the last 30+. The ice pack has returned to the levels observed when the alarmists were yelling global cooling.

I deny based on observations, not consensus.

Why the sudden change in terminology from Global cooling in the 70's to global warming 2 years ago and now...climate change. As if the climate has never changed before.

Can you tell me the best global temperature? By every study, a warming of some sort would allow for more crop growth to feed people who, BTW are creatures of God and have as much right on earth as the any other creature.

BTW, a few years ago the consensus was that cranberries caused cancer, bran was good for you, 9 of 10 doctors loved Camels, Apples caused cancer, the globe was cooling (BTW, pollution caused by US industry was greater then than now), etc.

I am just asking for facts and I still want to see a scientific study (based on the 'scientific methods understood and approved for years) which has been peer reviewed and which proved scientifically that global warming is caused by manmade influences/factors.

Every "proof" I have been shown consists of a conclusion with data modeled to support it and when data wasn't available, sources conveniently found it. How many of the consensus scientists have changed their minds?

TXiceman · 01-07-2009, 04:08 PM

Here is a website showing the global temperature trends fro the past 4500 years. The global heating and cooling cycle is nothing new.

Ken

melvonnar · 01-07-2009, 04:48 PM

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I am trying my darnedest to figure out the meaning/correlation in your -

"as soon as detroit unloads all their gas guslers, the price of gas will go up."

O boy----- the dealers are loaded with low milage vehicles; their unloading the invantory now that the price of gas is down; their giving all kinds of incentives to unload these guslers; people are buying them, when the price of fuel goes up they won"t be able to give them away. The price of gas----will go up after the dealers unload the invantory, the oil companys have a stake in the automibile business; think about it.

UFO Pilot · 01-07-2009, 05:04 PM

So if the Oil Companies and the Auto Industry are tied together, why did they allow gas prices to go so high they would have to "give" the gas guzzlers away? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

melvonnar · 01-08-2009, 04:50 AM

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So if the Oil Companies and the Auto Industry are tied together, why did they allow gas prices to go so high they would have to "give" the gas guzzlers away? That doesn't make any sense to me at all

Answer:
To begin a market for the hibrids.
Opens up a whole new field for the mfg"s.

RustyJC · 01-08-2009, 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by robert h:
Answer:
To begin a market for the hibrids.
Opens up a whole new field for the mfg"s.

If the oil companies are operating based on their own self-interests, $140+/bbl crude oil is not something they want to see. High energy prices provide a price umbrella that encourages development of alternate technologies (hydrogen-powered vehicles, fuel cells, electric cars), conservation (hybrids) and fuel-switching (E85, biodiesel, etc.), all of which are detrimental to an oil company. If one wants to understand why oil prices reached over $140/bbl last summer, that individual must look past the oil companies and understand how the global energy markets really function.

"Big Oil" does make a handy whipping boy for the uneducated, though.

Rusty

hamguy · 01-08-2009, 05:40 AM

"So if the Oil Companies and the Auto Industry are tied together, why did they allow gas prices to go so high they would have to "give" the gas guzzlers away? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Yup.

I won't even try to discuss the topic with someone using that kind of reasoning. Nor will I discuss the Global Warming scam with those that claim much colder weather is "proof" of global warming.