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07-03-2008, 04:50 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Bob Lee was smart enough to invent something....sell it... and then open a business repairing them right down the street from what he invented. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
But Bob Lee hasn't proven the model will work yet and given the way the industry is, I am sure it will impact his concept as well...Time will tell....
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07-03-2008, 04:59 PM
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I agree!!
It takes money to make money and in this case, when you're short of money it's safer to circle the wagons...
No sense in overextending yourself on a speculative proposal, there's the possibility you'll end up like National, Travel Supreme,Alpha, etc.
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07-03-2008, 05:23 PM
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My two cents........ I have only been an RV'r for a few years now so I'm no expert. However I can comment with over 25 years of experience in a similar industry,(not RV)of selling and servicing industrial customers motorized capital assets that at the very same time new sales drops off, the parts and service business grows in direct opposite proportion. I have seen a few "economic" dips our business over the years. If they aint buying, they gotta fix-em.
Every factory appointed dealership in our industry has multiple profit centers or departments as some know them as. And anyone will tell you that the parts and service departments always carries the sales department through the tuff times.
We can find many reasons why the major service-ovehaul concept will not work. My guess is there may be a few why it would.....
"The pessimist complains about the wind, the optimist expects it to change, the realist adjusts the sails"- William Aurthur Ward
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07-03-2008, 05:44 PM
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Thats pretty much the way I saw it Bdaball. An oppurtunity.
Oh Bob, yes we do share the same hairdos, lmao.
The mountain pertained to everyone making the task look much greater then it need be.
Oh, I bet those Amish men have more money stashed then all of us put together, don't let them fool you other wise.
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07-03-2008, 05:47 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I bet those Amish men have more money stashed then all of us put together </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You may be right, but they have more conservatism.
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07-04-2008, 07:48 AM
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 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"The pessimist complains about the wind, the optimist expects it to change, the realist adjusts the sails"- William Aurthur Ward </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My eyes/ears and money will be with the first coach builder/company who can exploit refitting current model coaches with fuel saving cylinder displacements, batttery type electric powered RV's. With all the 50/30 amp & propane camping sites across America waiting to Re-Charge, the RV coach just may be the vehicle source that actually leads the way for Ammerica to get off or limit use of Big Oil. Just think, RV pioneers once again, the ones who helped lead the way to get America back on the open road. Now "That would be a realistic adjustment to the Sails".  Doc
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07-04-2008, 08:10 AM
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We were going to get a new RV next year but with fuel prices as they are we going to keep this one and see how it goes. I got a new roof and awnings on the slides and tires are only a year old so we go wait a few more years.
Tom
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07-06-2008, 06:04 AM
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We were planning to upgrade to DP however with the cost of everything...fuel is only one thing to be concerned with. Food, home heating and every product out there has gone up and likely will continue. Most will be facing 20-40% increases in prices of everything and I don't know a lot of people who's income increases by those margins.
Bottom line is it's unfortunate for the industry that this is occurring and the people who are affected however like nature, it will 'weed out' the weakest. I agree with the earlier post, I see only 4-5 manufacturers surviving past 2010. Some will close their doors, others will be bought out/acquired and one line discontinued.
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07-11-2008, 05:13 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CSX4350:
Oh come on, it was GREAT in March!!! Yeah right, I froze my butt off in Nappanee!
I think you'll see warranty work slacking off dramatically, you can't lose 40+% of your sales and not lose 40+% of your warranty work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Evidently the top brass of Newmar thinks that service will be affected by the decrease in sales, because we're still here at Camp Newmar and I've heard two service people say the last week of July service will start working a 4 day week.
Sue
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07-11-2008, 05:36 AM
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Are there many rigs there for service?
I'll be arriving Sunday.
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07-11-2008, 05:47 AM
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Maybe Newmar will start doing pay work earlier than normal Jan-March.
This maybe the opening that was needed to show Newmar that pay work will pay for itself other than winter.
I know the reason for the winter dates is to keep their workers working but extended service times must be looked at as an option to keep Newmar healthy.
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07-11-2008, 05:54 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Route 66:
Are there many rigs there for service?
I'll be arriving Sunday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There are no empty bays in high-line. Not sure about how busy they are where the Dutch Star is serviced. Camp Newmar was full up earlier in the week, but some folks have left and last night there were a couple of empty spaces.
We're hoping to leave this afternoon after the Oasis is replaced.
Sue <---ready to see more of the world besides Camp Newmar
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07-11-2008, 06:42 AM
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Hi Folks!!!
We msde it home from Camp Newmar!!
Getting 'Ready' to head East tomorrow AM.
When I made our appt. (Aug 26) for the return visit Phil advised me Service Would be Mon-Thurs only.
Rick
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07-11-2008, 06:51 AM
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Is service perhaps moving (like a number of companies) to 4x10 hour days versus 5x8 hour days to try to save their employees some commuting costs? If so, it's not really a cutback.
Just wondering....
Rusty
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