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BayRunner · 03-12-2023, 10:10 AM

Not sure if this will impact your search for financing but you may want to look for a coach less than 10 years old. The recent collapse of the SVB bank may be on the other financial institutions mind for giving loans to what is considered risk situations.,Not saying you are a risk but they may view a 10+ year old Motorhome that they can’t find on NADA as a risk.

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith55

Have you looked at any other coaches? These features are very common. I had a 2005 Winnie with auto lock bays. That wasn't the first year they had that feature either.

Being able to run off your own water pump is very easy to do. Air leveling is standard on many coaches under that price range.

Cool that you might get a Prevost and I am not saying it isn't a good coach but not because of the common features you are stating. If that's what you are looking for you might want to consider other models.

I've been looking but nothing come close to a Prevost chassis. Stainless-steel frame and designed to last forever with a million miles. I listed a few cheap basic features that every DP should have.

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BayRunner

Not sure if this will impact your search for financing but you may want to look for a coach less than 10 years old. The recent collapse of the SVB bank may be on the other financial institutions mind for giving loans to what is considered risk situations.,Not saying you are a risk but they may view a 10+ year old Motorhome that they can’t find on NADA as a risk.

All prevosts under 10 years are around a million bucks which doesn't seem worth it when I can get basically the same coach 5 years older for half a million less. Especially considering as I'm most interested in a chassis and plan on customizing the interior completely to my needs.

If need be I have a secured loan option then refinance if/when the market restabilizes.

BayRunner · 03-12-2023, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain8

All prevosts under 10 years are around a million bucks which doesn't seem worth it when I can get basically the same coach 5 years older for half a million less. Especially considering as I'm most interested in a chassis and plan on customizing the interior completely to my needs.

If need be I have a secured loan option then refinance if/when the market restabilizes.

Yea, I hear ya. Those Prevosts are quite pricey. Good luck for I think come tomorrow morning you’re going to find a very different landscape in the financial arena.

Bigceasar · 03-12-2023, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain8

All prevosts under 10 years are around a million bucks which doesn't seem worth it when I can get basically the same coach 5 years older for half a million less. Especially considering as I'm most interested in a chassis and plan on customizing the interior completely to my needs.

If need be I have a secured loan option then refinance if/when the market restabilizes.

The fact you plan to gut it then customize it to your needs is not info you should share with a potential lender. That would make an already risky loan much riskier. It might even be against the fine print in the loan agreement and subject the loan to default status.

MarylandRich · 03-12-2023, 01:09 PM

USAA will normally finance a coach over 10 years old. My 20+ year old Country Coach has many of the features you listed, and a full steel frame. Not pneumatic slide seals though, but I always wondered what do you do when they start leaking air?

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MarylandRich

USAA will normally finance a coach over 10 years old. My 20+ year old Country Coach has many of the features you listed, and a full steel frame. Not pneumatic slide seals though, but I always wondered what do you do when they start leaking air?

I've been reading a lot about it all and the normal air pumps up the aux air tanks which has an electric compressor. When the air leaks or power is lost the seals just deflate so they aren't as effective. Some have air doors which have an emergency release. Even some toilets use air somehow so don't flush if no air.

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigceasar

The fact you plan to gut it then customize it to your needs is not info you should share with a potential lender. That would make an already risky loan much riskier. It might even be against the fine print in the loan agreement and subject the loan to default status.

Oh I'm not just to make things easier. I've never seen any loans prevent modification or anything but never had an RV loan yet.

greeneville1 · 03-12-2023, 01:26 PM

Captain 8 is seriously under estimating the costs of these different systems that he yearns. While air suspension pump might be $1000 . for a air pump and controls, there may be an additional 10 or 15 k or more for parts and labor to install. We have had these features standard of our coaches as far back as 2002 in Monaco Dynastys as well as other manufacturers ( Country Coach , Newmar, American Coach. Stay safe.

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BayRunner

Yea, I hear ya. Those Prevosts are quite pricey. Good luck for I think come tomorrow morning you’re going to find a very different landscape in the financial arena.

I dont, iirc SVB was extremely overleveraged and full of risky VC investments. They'll either be gobbled up by another bank or were so bad no one wants to touch. Either that or the banking industry is so corrupt theyre punishing SVB for not playing by the rules the Fed monopoly set. Remember the Fed is ran by banks who have inside knowledge of their books and set the finance rules and decides if they want the govt to bail them out. This has nothing to do with the Federal Government.

Captain8 · 03-12-2023, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by greeneville1

Captain 8 is seriously under estimating the costs of these different systems that he yearns. While air suspension pump might be $1000 . for a air pump and controls, there may be an additional 10 or 15 k or more for parts and labor to install. We have had these features standard of our coaches as far back as 2002 in Monaco Dynastys as well as other manufacturers ( Country Coach , Newmar, American Coach. Stay safe.

What specifically are you talking about? Don't basically all DPs have air brakes and air suspension already? There shouldn't be much more than a controller, valves and proper height sensors for the system to auto calibrate and independently adjust each airbag while driving so the coach is always level and similar for when it's parked to keep it level. These are simple cheap parts and really should be on every system with airbags so we have alerts when the vehicle is low, not just when the tank is low. Just because the tanks are full doesn't mean the airbags are full, and driving without the coach aired up is very dangerous.

Can you give me a specific part that would cost over $100 for the manufacturer to mass produce? For most cars with an air suspension option it's a few grand total upgrade. And I can't think of a car that has air suspension but doesn't have auto leveling or sensors to detect if low

Keith55 · 03-12-2023, 09:00 PM

This seems like a troll or ego post.

The vast majority of people here are enjoying a variety of manufacturers RV's.

If Captain 8 wants me to say Prevost's are incredible machines have options that other coaches should have then consider it said and the discussion can move on.

If you can get financing, enjoy your Prevost.

Dutch Star Don · 03-12-2023, 09:06 PM

I can give you a hundred examples. These coach manufacturers and suppliers think we're all rich. A slide motor built by Klauber for Newmar motorhomes is $1300.00. The dealer cost is $700.00, which means Newmar bought it from Klauber for about $350.00. Klauber will NOT sell to the public.

Just driving up to a service bay that will handle a Prevost will cost you a $1000.00 to just have them talk to you. Yes, they're well made, but very complicated. Miles of wiring. The quality of the build should keep the issues down, but things still go wrong over time and then it cost a fortune to repair.

Alpine36 · 03-12-2023, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain8

I've been looking but nothing come close to a Prevost chassis. Stainless-steel frame and designed to last forever with a million miles. I listed a few cheap basic features that every DP should have.

Some may argue “nothing comes close”.
Have you looked at and researched a Newell chassis?
Truly one of the nicest coaches I’ve ever had the pleasure of riding in. Here’s an example

https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/200...ACH-5023924547