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Keith55 · 05-21-2022, 05:52 AM

WOW!

I have been looking to get a little newer DP and have been looking at pricing. I was hoping to get the "Big Block" with at least the 1250 pounds of torque.

Yes, I know there is a lot to these rigs but have to admit I got a little sticker shock to see $650,000 as a "not out of line" price for RV's in this arena.

Never seriously looked at new before.

Many parts of the country you can buy a couple acres of land and a heck of a home for $650,000!! Yes, I know that is peanuts in Cali.

I guess there is just a completely different income class than me that can afford $650,000 whether they are full timing or as a heavily used get away.

Not sure why I felt the need to post except sheer shock of that price!

jacwjames · 05-21-2022, 06:01 AM

Yup, and considering a RV of any type is a depreciating asset makes it even worse.
Yes, there are different classes of people. Some people can afford to buy a new rig and if you follow some of the threads on the top end coaches and look at signatures some owners trade every other year.

For me I'll keep my 20 year old rig and keep the money in my retirement account and bank. FYI I retired 10 years ago at the age of 54.

MO Fred · 05-21-2022, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jacwjames

Yup, and considering a RV of any type is a depreciating asset makes it even worse.
Yes, there are different classes of people. Some people can afford to buy a new rig and if you follow some of the threads on the top end coaches and look at signatures some owners trade every other year.

For me I'll keep my 20 year old rig and keep the money in my retirement account and bank. FYI I retired 10 years ago at the age of 54.

Ditto, my coach is 20 years old too with less than 100k miles and is probably just as reliable as any new coach on the road. They are out there, just need to seek and find.

Hpozzuoli · 05-21-2022, 06:48 AM

Most of the high end coaches you see are owned by full timers or the filthy rich. Let’s address the rich folks. They can afford anything they want and they do. The second group is the full timers. Think about it, if you sell your home it shouldn’t be that hard to afford a 700k coach, if you had a similarly valued home.

I think the big question for both the rich and full timers is, even though I have 700k do I spend on it an rv….some say yes and some say no.

dadej · 05-21-2022, 07:12 AM

Can you pay cash or do you have to finance? Stay away from financing a large depreciating asset.

Can you afford to loose $200k in three years? Not to mention sales tax and a yearly large insurance and tax bill.

Just food for thought.

Cumminsfan · 05-21-2022, 07:39 AM

Last thing I'd do is sell my house and use that money to buy a money pit RV to live in.
You'll never recoup that money and when the time comes, and it will, that you want to leave the FT life and settle down you don't have diddle to buy a permanent home with.

You need some serious coin to own a DP, let alone purchase a newer one. DP ownership's not for the faint of heart.

Kid Gloves · 05-21-2022, 08:16 AM

Keep in mind, those folks who buy new $650K+ coaches every few years still whine about fuel prices, maintenance and repair costs and tire prices, just like the rest of us. And they want free coffee.

Crasher · 05-21-2022, 08:17 AM

Many should be grateful for the "Filthy Rich" as someone stated. If not for them buying and trading their one, two or three year coaches, how could anyone with fewer assets afford a DP??

Country Road · 05-21-2022, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith55

WOW!

I have been looking to get a little newer DP and have been looking at pricing. I was hoping to get the "Big Block" with at least the 1250 pounds of torque.

Yes, I know there is a lot to these rigs but have to admit I got a little sticker shock to see $650,000 as a "not out of line" price for RV's in this arena.

Never seriously looked at new before.

Many parts of the country you can buy a couple acres of land and a heck of a home for $650,000!! Yes, I know that is peanuts in Cali.

I guess there is just a completely different income class than me that can afford $650,000 whether they are full timing or as a heavily used get away.

Not sure why I felt the need to post except sheer shock of that price!

Your last sentence was fun to read and sometimes it’s just best to get our thoughts out there. If I was a priest, I would give you forgiveness for what others might think is a sin. Lol.

There are some awfully like new, nice coaches out there under $400k. Funny thing is, that the more you look at pricing, even $400k seems to be inline. We are experiencing very expensive times and for some of us, the clock is ticking. When I get ready to only sit on the back porch, I’ll know that I have given it my best shot.

1JetDoc · 05-21-2022, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kid Gloves

Keep in mind, those folks who buy new $650K+ coaches every few years still whine about fuel prices, maintenance and repair costs and tire prices, just like the rest of us. And they want free coffee.

I used to work on airplanes for a living... It was a running joke that the cheapest thing in aviation was the guy who owned the airplane. I guess the same goes for high-end RVs.

TomandGloria · 05-21-2022, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 1JetDoc

I used to work on airplanes for a living... It was a running joke that the cheapest thing in aviation was the guy who owned the airplane. I guess the same goes for high-end RVs.

That’s a good one. I’m still laughing about that quote.
Thanks for sharing.

Kid Gloves · 05-21-2022, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1JetDoc

I used to work on airplanes for a living... It was a running joke that the cheapest thing in aviation was the guy who owned the airplane. I guess the same goes for high-end RVs.

I worked in a different industry. One of our running jokes was that there’s never time to do it right, but there’s always time to do it twice.

Tha_Rooster · 05-21-2022, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dadej

Can you pay cash or do you have to finance? Stay away from financing a large depreciating asset.

Can you afford to loose $200k in three years? Not to mention sales tax and a yearly large insurance and tax bill.

Just food for thought.

I’d like to know how many people pay cash for a 650,000 MH?

UTTransplant · 05-21-2022, 11:23 AM

One of the reasons MHs are priced so much more is the upscaling of the lower models. We bought ours new in 2018. Our price was ~190K, 28% off MSRP. Whad just about every option available, though we did go with just prewiring for satellite and solar, since Kevin knew he could install those himself. There were significant differences between our line (Tiffin RED) and the next one up (Phaeton). The Phaetons had a number of standard features not even available on REDs, plus lots of options also unavailable on our line. Now the REDs have many features standard that used to be available only on higher lines, and the option list is much more upscale. For example, in 2023 there will only be three models of REDs, and only the 33’ will have a single mid ship bath. Glad we bought ours when we did, because I wouldn’t have wanted a macerating toilet (too much water usage for dry camping), AquaHot, all-electric, etc. I know we don’t camp the way most people do since we spend about half of our time boondocking, but the newer versions of my rig just have too much “stuff” on them! All of the “stuff” adds to the price.