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Old 11-02-2020, 09:30 AM   #15
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It's from date the bottle is opened, so write the date you opened it on the bottle.
Sounds good.
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Actually it's the inverse--not using it will foul your fuel injectors or carb. But thanks for proving you can find anything on the Internet!
And of course you're posting yet another internet point of view that isn't necessarily accurate.

My opinion, based on 40 plus years of driving and storing gasoline engine powered machines, is that additives aren't needed. I've never had any problems storing vehicles (various Mhs, boats, lawn equipment) for months. We are near the refineries so maybe our gasoline is better..

A bit late answering UD's question. If his rig happens to get around 8 mpg, half a gallon of fuel would be used during the 4 mile drive to the storage facility. Since it's hard to get that stuff mixed in the tank well, I'd think he might want to drive a bit further to be sure.
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:24 AM   #17
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It's from date the bottle is opened, so write the date you opened it on the bottle.
5 years if unopened and original foil seal is intact.
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Untreated gasoline nowadays can go stale in 30 days. The smaller the engine ( and therefore the smaller the passages for fuel ) the more susceptible it is to problems from stale fuel ( turning into varnish )
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Old 11-02-2020, 10:32 AM   #19
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X2 on the Star Tron based on the advice of our mechanic as well, we've stored our Muscle Car collection with it for years with no problem.


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Depending on what climate a gas vehicle is stored in has an effect on fuel quality. We store a car in WI from Oct to mid May with no stabilizer added to the fuel. Never an issue with the fuel system in 15 years when put back into service. I don't add anything the the riding mower either. Fuel stays more stable in a cold climate. On the other hand, we store our boat in AZ from Mid May to Oct with Star Tron Enzyme added to the fuel. I stopped using Stabil several years ago and switched to Star Tron at the advise of my marine dealer. He claimed that the Enzyme did a better job. @ 110-120 degrees, untreated fuel could turn stale in 6-7 months.
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Here's another article from the internet so take it for what it's worth. I read that the stabil actually forms a film on top of the fuel to keep it from releasing certain components from the fuel that makes it go bad. ???
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Stabil works great stabil marine is better blue bottle, and full gas tank. It's the methanol in gas that turns to jelly the messes up the fuel system.
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Im in Wisconsin, you absolutely need stabil, especially in smaller carbed equipment. If I don't use it, starting the equipment in the spring is a bear...
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Fuel stabilizer is needed in engines with carburetors because of the evaporation of the fuel in the float bowl. It will leave deposits that plug jets, and stick valves closed in the carb.

Ethanol is very bad because it evaporates much faster than just gasoline.

Most newer than mid to late 80's gas vehicles are fuel injected, so no carb to gum up. Therefore they are much less susceptible to gumming from evaporation.
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And of course you're posting yet another internet point of view that isn't necessarily accurate.

My opinion, based on 40 plus years of driving and storing gasoline engine powered machines, is that additives aren't needed. I've never had any problems storing vehicles (various Mhs, boats, lawn equipment) for months. We are near the refineries so maybe our gasoline is better..

A bit late answering UD's question. If his rig happens to get around 8 mpg, half a gallon of fuel would be used during the 4 mile drive to the storage facility. Since it's hard to get that stuff mixed in the tank well, I'd think he might want to drive a bit further to be sure.
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I put it in at half full and then topped it :-)
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The video is misleading. It shows OPEN containers exposed to the air.
Evaporation occurs and moisture in the air is picked up. Both bad scenarios.

A full tank with a sealed cap stops this.

I use Seafoam in my motorcycle for winter storage with a full tank of gas.

Put away for the winter, 4-5 months, and never had a problem starting it in the spring.
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a good watch;
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Not crazy about the short term testing of products designed for long term use, but yes a good watch.

There are probably at least four different scenarios these products could be used in long term.

1. A sealed gas container.
2. A carbureted engine with a gravity feed from a tank.
3. A carbureted engine with either a fuel shut off or a fuel pump.
4. A fuel injected vehicle.

Each of those has different issues, with the 2nd one probably being the scenario most likely to lead to storage related difficulties because whatever evaporates over time will be replaced and then itself be subject to evaporation.

I'm most curious about the 4th scenario, not having seen or read much about that.

Two final thoughts. First, many portable generators suggest replacing the fuel hoses after only a few years if you use an ethanol fuel. Not good stuff! Second, the best way to avoid the storage problem is to run the engine regularly (or switch to propane or CNG).
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The video is misleading. It shows OPEN containers exposed to the air.
Evaporation occurs and moisture in the air is picked up. Both bad scenarios.

A full tank with a sealed cap stops this.
That's part of what I was hitting at with my four scenarios. I'm not sure your motorcycle gas cap though helps as much as you think because I doubt it's sealed. I have a small generator that seemingly has a vented and unvented setting, so that might help. What probably helps your situaition though is having the tank full. That means less surface area as well as a smaller area of air to deal with.

Edit: I wonder how the gas fumes in a tank affect moisture exchange. Are they a buffer or a magnet?
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