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06-17-2020, 01:00 PM
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Name the campground so we can get a feel of what your experience was. It's really unfair to 'Rant' without giving the whole picture.
Read reviews before going. CampsiteReviews.com is a good one. Weed out the excellent reviews and the terrible reviews that are usually for nonsense and then it will give you a good idea of what to expect.
Could you have asked for a different campsite to solve your leveling problem?
Water and electric hookups are typically close together. The lines are run separately but close for efficient cost when building.
As for COVID-19 precautions not in place.... that's an individual person's or business option at this time. Nothing is mandated. If it's not suitable to you then either stay inside your RV, go for a hike in a secluded area or perhaps staying home for a while until things calm down (hopefully). You're not going to find perfectly safe conditions out there right now ... anywhere.
Certainly don't give up on this one experience.
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06-17-2020, 04:01 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: NY State
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Originally Posted by chuckbear
If you're looking for campgrounds that adhere to Covid-19 practices, sorry but you're just not going to find many. We have been to a number of private and state campgrounds and have seen NO ONE with face masks or practicing social distancing. Restrooms, etc. are open and in most of those, we could never find hand sanitizer or even soap for hand cleaning. Of course, we are in Florida so the Virus is no big deal here. Chuck
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Things are a bit different in upstate NY. We stayed in a CG 10 miles from Quebec last week. Everyone was masked if they approached anyone else and there was a big plexiglass shield at the check-in desk.
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06-17-2020, 04:23 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
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Originally Posted by twogypsies
Name the campground so we can get a feel of what your experience was. It's really unfair to 'Rant' without giving the whole picture.
Read reviews before going. CampsiteReviews.com is a good one. Weed out the excellent reviews and the terrible reviews that are usually for nonsense and then it will give you a good idea of what to expect.
Could you have asked for a different campsite to solve your leveling problem?
Water and electric hookups are typically close together. The lines are run separately but close for efficient cost when building.
As for COVID-19 precautions not in place.... that's an individual person's or business option at this time. Nothing is mandated. If it's not suitable to you then either stay inside your RV, go for a hike in a secluded area or perhaps staying home for a while until things calm down (hopefully). You're not going to find perfectly safe conditions out there right now ... anywhere.
Certainly don't give up on this one experience.
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Well said.. Without naming the place just does everyone here a disservice. Blah Blah Blah. What happened to helping out the next guy ? :(
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06-17-2020, 04:30 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Chalfont, PA
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Again, WOW, lots of responses.
First off, the covid thing was an annoyance not a big deal. We were in Florida March, pre precautions. However we brought masks, gloves, and wipes.
This is not our first experience but absolutely the worst. With the record RV sales and covid green phase I think too many people are getting out and letting loose for my taste. Thinking seriously about boondocking for the summer.
Thanks for the review suggestions. My wife did caution about some stuff, but it was way worse than expected. Second nite we did ask for a site away from the party animals and it was quieter but the smoke was everywhere. The site did not look as small on google earth, there weren't many RVS in and the tree cover masked it.
The place was called Bear Run, in Portersville, PA maybe some have had a better experience. Personally the night before in a rest stop on the PA turnpike was quieter and the air cleaner.
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06-17-2020, 04:45 PM
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Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mo/Texas
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So your saying Covid-19, which has already killed 115,000+- people in approx 3 1/2 months, is not a big deal? Interesting conclusion on your part.
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Originally Posted by TIME2CAMP
Again, WOW, lots of responses.
First off, the covid thing was an annoyance not a big deal. We were in Florida March, pre precautions. However we brought masks, gloves, and wipes.
This is not our first experience but absolutely the worst. With the record RV sales and covid green phase I think too many people are getting out and letting loose for my taste. Thinking seriously about boondocking for the summer.
Thanks for the review suggestions. My wife did caution about some stuff, but it was way worse than expected. Second nite we did ask for a site away from the party animals and it was quieter but the smoke was everywhere. The site did not look as small on google earth, there weren't many RVS in and the tree cover masked it.
The place was called Bear Run, in Portersville, PA maybe some have had a better experience. Personally the night before in a rest stop on the PA turnpike was quieter and the air cleaner.
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06-17-2020, 05:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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Originally Posted by TIME2CAMP
Thanks for the review suggestions. My wife did caution about some stuff, but it was way worse than expected. Second nite we did ask for a site away from the party animals and it was quieter but the smoke was everywhere. The site did not look as small on google earth, there weren't many RVS in and the tree cover masked it.
The place was called Bear Run, in Portersville, PA maybe some have had a better experience.
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Thanks for returning and giving us the name of the campground. That will help others.
They have a special announcement on the web site for COVID-19 precautions they've taken and they are good with sanitizing if they follow through. They recommend 6' social distancing which would be hard in a place like it is. They recommend following CDC guidelines; no mention of masks.
The have an extensive list of Rules including quiet hours of 10:30pm to 8:30am, excessive disturbance will not be tolerated at any hour, report disturbances immediately to office, no drinking parties or strolling with alcohol. It must remain on campsite.
In reading several review sites some of your complaints are well justified.
Comment by Owner: "we have specific rules and problems should have been taken care of right away" This is in reply from a review stated loud drinking party until 2:30 am and finally called office. Answer received "I'll find someone to look into it". Not done.
They have a nice website and prices seem high but it may be normal for that area.
Now to the reviews: Not high rankings. Almost all state it's tight for big rigs and 30' or shorter is best. It's geared to seasonal campers with junk around, and drive-ins get poor sites, fire rings are 3' from RVs.
Owners comments from reviews: Seasonal sites "we want our seasonal to have a second home and they will naturally have more things outside".
Everyone has different expectations and this would not be a park we would stay. Just looking at the 'activity' pictures tells me it's a party park. It's full of families and tons of kids. However, some may like that atmosphere.
It wouldn't be a good experience for us either and glad you gave the name of the park to perhaps help others. Keep in mind that some people like that kind of park. Obviously, it's not for you.
My recommendation would be to always read a couple review sites to get a feel for the park's atmosphere. Anytime you read it has a pool, playgrounds, organized kids activities, etc. you can be assured it's going to be noisy.
Perhaps next time listen to your wife. You said she cautioned you about a couple things.
Don't give up on RVing. This was a bad experience but you'll have many better ones!!
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06-17-2020, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
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These days if you are not reading the reviews on campgroundreviews.com and looking at videos of the camp on youtube.com then you probably will have more experiences like this. Some people really like the parks where parties are common and campfires are allowed so no matter what your preference you need to read up on what kind of place it is first.
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06-17-2020, 06:21 PM
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Your mistake was staying only 40 miles from 2 million Steelers and Penguins fans that have been locked up for 3 months [emoji47][emoji47]
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06-17-2020, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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Campground
Campfire
Asthma
Which one doesn't go with the other two?
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06-17-2020, 06:56 PM
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Location: MN
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I remember, when I was much much younger, camping with the more . . . um . . . drunken side of my extended family.
They specifically sought out parks that would be their Party Central. So did their friends.
So, you found one of their parks. They're not going to change because you disliked it - they make their money on it.
It's like buying a car - you can't buy a Mini and then complain that it's small. You need to investigate what you're buying, so that you buy what it is you actually want.
You didn't like Party Central. Had you read reviews, you would have known it's Party Central. Partiers need parks too. Keeps them out of ours.
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06-17-2020, 09:19 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Alberta Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbear
If you're looking for campgrounds that adhere to Covid-19 practices, sorry but you're just not going to find many. We have been to a number of private and state campgrounds and have seen NO ONE with face masks or practicing social distancing. Restrooms, etc. are open and in most of those, we could never find hand sanitizer or even soap for hand cleaning. Of course, we are in Florida so the Virus is no big deal here. Chuck
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Friends of ours in Florida said they had to stop all the hand sanitizers, soaps and toilet papers when there was a shortage because every one was stolen by folks at the beginning of this. Just saying as a possible explanation!
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06-18-2020, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2015
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I agree it sounds like Bear Run may be a great campground but for a certain segment of the camping community. The suggestions to seek out reviews are spot on, and I know you will find many parks that are stricter and cater to the type of camping you like to do. Some even limit campfires.
We are not “partyers” but we travel with kids and we do enjoy a lot of the noisier parks with lots of kids, campfires, s’mores roasting, and bar-b-queuing. In Florida Wekiva falls comes to mind-DJ with music cranking at the springs with lots of revelry going on including day visitors driving in and out. I can see that would annoy some but our kids have a blast so I don’t let it bother me.
We also AVOID places that mandate masks. We don’t wear them as the DW is a family Dr and I also am a healthcare provider for over 20 years and we are educated enough in infection control to understand that the masks most wear are not protecting anything except people’s emotions. Most are actually increasing the risk. 15 year Disney Passholders cancelling our passes as we will not be attending parks with facecoverings.
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06-18-2020, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Chalfont, PA
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Originally Posted by JC2
So your saying Covid-19, which has already killed 115,000+- people in approx 3 1/2 months, is not a big deal? Interesting conclusion on your part.
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Their non-compliance with their guidelines was not a big deal. We know how to avoid unsafe situations on our own. When I went into the office, which was labeled as a mask area half the campers inside were not wearing. One employee had a mask over her mouth only. I commented to her about this and she said the typical poor response" we can't enforce/some people have breathing problems with masks"
Currently in the whole US each person should know how to protect themselves and when to leave an area due to risk. Relying on government or others in this situation is not good enough. IMHO
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06-18-2020, 07:55 AM
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#42
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Originally Posted by JC2
So your saying Covid-19, which has already killed 115,000+- people in approx 3 1/2 months, is not a big deal? Interesting conclusion on your part.
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I am curious, if you were a park owner how would you enforce mask rules, social distancing and the other precautions either mandated or suggested by the various health and government agencies? Keep in mind that an RV park is somewhat different than a storefront. Requiring guests to comply or leave would involve more than just escorting them out of the front door. The guests would have to pack up, hook up and drive off. You would have the issue whether or not to refund their site fees. What if the offenders were children of the guests? From experience, disciplining children who are not yours is fraught with danger. Finally in the case of the original post it appears there may also be alcohol involved which would exponentially increase the chances of escalating an already tense situation. On paper, requiring everyone to be compliant sure looks good. But I am really interested in hearing from someone who has a plan to actually put those requirements into real world practice.
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