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Old 05-29-2016, 09:53 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by cwk View Post
Yup. That's US-301. The billboard has been there for years. When you get to town, the cop usually sits in the lane next to the ballfield on the southbound side. Not sure where he sits northbound, but seeing flashing blue lights (patrol car in action) when going through Lawtey is a common event.

There was another small town on US-301 that was located a little bit off of 301. They "annexed" land to change the city limits so they could set speed traps on the highway to make money. The state of Florida finally put a stop to it and made them "un-annex" and move the city limits back again.

This is the way some of the small towns balance their budget.

Been driving that route for many years. Lawtey and Waldo are notorious.

As far as the comment about you don't get a speeding ticket if you don't speed, drive that stretch and watch how the speed limits are set up. The state of Florida had to step in as noted, AAA advised against traveling that route, and that stretch has been on the national news more than once.
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Old 05-29-2016, 10:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Sheriffbubba View Post
including using your turn signals when you change lanes

It's still amazing to me that drivers have to be reminded of this.

As to the OP, most speed trap locations are where they are as a result of frequent disregard of posted limits, but as for 50 feet? Or 1mph??? Come on! I call 'BS'!!

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Old 05-29-2016, 10:35 PM   #18
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I-5 In CA if towing anything your limit drops to 55 (truck speed) from the normal 65 for cars or RV's not towing anything. And they are not above setting up on a long downgrade so they catch those on cruise control.
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Old 05-29-2016, 10:38 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Chuck_Hammer View Post
ANY small town is a possible speed trap..

I got one last fall in S.E. Ohio... going from 35 to 50.. I was within 50 feet of the 50 sign... and got one for 48... $140.00 and I was on a motorcycle and just enjoying a sunny afternoon.

Oh, I have stock exhaust system. NO Noise.

MUST not accelerate till AFTER the speed sign...
Yep, you can't start accelerating till you pass the sign and must be goin the speed at the sign if slowing. Well known fact that not many seem to follow!
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Sheriff Bubba I am sure you do your job well. However, there is absolutely not a single doubt in my mind that police issue tickets in some places as a revenue source. I have not had a ticket in my home State in 30+ years. But AZ has issued me two in the last six. AZ absolutely does give out tickets to make money in rural areas. My last one was completely and absolutely unjustified. But RVs are very safe bets to issue citations to. Nearly 100% are not local and near 100% will just send in a check to pay it as the cost of coming back is too high.

And I do recognize that police work can sometimes be dangerous. Issuing citations to older married couples in motorhomes is not one of those times.

And the other AZ ticket was a radar speed trap set up right next to a place where the speed went from 65 to 55. I was in a car that time. A geezer car BTW not some hot rod. The problem is greatly increased due to the fact that in many areas if you drive the speed limit you have people going crazy behind you trying to get you to go faster or get around you. I call that the hurry up sickness.
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Originally Posted by Sheriffbubba View Post
Please remember that any law enforcement officer must have probable cause to make a traffic stop on any vehicle... If you don't have unsafe and defective equipment and you obey all traffic laws, including using your turn signals when you change lanes, you will no be pulled over... It's really as simple as that.
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No offense taken, and as a law enforcement supporter, I understand, but wonder if the officers that do not use good sense realize how much damage they do to the image with the public. I do not know what the OP speed was when he hit the 30, but when it is a couple over while slowing at the sign that is BS and does great damage to public perception. My last encounter left a very poor taste when stopped with my wife in the middle of nowhere by the Wyoming Highway Patrol for 1 mph over the posted sign (his radar) on the interstate with the cruise set on our late model auto at the speed indicated on the sign. Yes, I realize that is probable cause and after 25 minutes on the side of the road I was issued a warning by a very rude young officer who tossed the proof of insurance and registration in my wife's lap. So, simple as that, he did a great deal of damage to public relations and I will remember that attitude for a long time. And, you are correct that there are many fine, professional officers, but the fact remains that the a-holes do a lot of damage.
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You are absolutely right... There are certainly those in the law enforcement profession that are in the job for the wrong reasons... They look at the job as a power trip and like to throw their weight around. This type of officer always makes my blood boil. I've been around some of them in my years but I have found that this type usually does not have a long career because sooner or later they do something to get themselves in trouble and fired from the job.
It is unfortunate that the few troublemakers ruin an honorable profession for the hardworking, honest and professional officers that are on the job for the right reasons....(the vast majority!)


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37 years LEO and SB I could not have said it better. Just men and women doing the work they are paid for by the tax payer and it's are driving a RV not a Formula One...take your time and perhaps you will have a fantastic safe trip...enjoy the road up ahead in a safe way!! K9Piper
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It's speeding !! You were caught, get over it.

It wasn't the cops fault.
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It's speeding !! You were caught, get over it.

It wasn't the cops fault.
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It's speeding !! You were caught, get over it.

It wasn't the cops fault.
X2. On those rare occasions when I have been stopped for speeding (I try very hard to pay attention to speed limits), the first thing I do is to thank the officer for doing his/her duty and then I apologize for my transgression. After the officer recovers from a dead faint (figuratively, not literally), I am usually thanked for my attitude. What happens next is a much more pleasant interaction for both of us than it could have been. Sometimes I still get ticketed, sometimes I get a warning instead.

I also make it a point when I see uniformed officers (or military personnel) in a restaurant or in a store to take the time to thank them for all they do to keep us safe. They are usually shocked, but they also seem grateful for an appreciative word.
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It's speeding !! You were caught, get over it.

It wasn't the cops fault.
Yep ... that's the attitude.

Around here it's not the speed traps ... it's parking tickets. Our downtown area has virtually ZERO private parking. It's all metered public parking with a 3 hour maximum. If you work in the downtown area - you've got to structure your work day such that you take breaks in time to feed the meter. Miss it - and it's a $45 fine (we've got a fleet of 6 full time parking enforcement officers patrolling on Segways). The average is 1-2 tickets per person per month in the office building that I work in - and that's folks who know the deal and are trying to keep the meters fed.

Have two unpaid parking tickets? ... no problem. The private tow operators are provided with a list - and tow your vehicle on sight. The tow operators "patrol" the lots, checking license plates. If they spot a vehicle on the list - that'll be $90 for the two unpaid tickets ... $25 to the local police to get authorization to spring the vehicle from the impound lot and of course, the $185 to the company that towed it.

When my garage was broken into - it took 30 minutes for an officer to arrive. He handed me a report and was told my insurance oughta cover it. When my car was ransacked while parked in my driveway ... same response. In my town, law enforcement is impotent when it comes to stopping crimes - but they're a well oiled machine when it comes to parking enforcement.

Like I said in a previous post - it's ALL about the benjamins. In many of these situations - we're simply a revenue source and treated accordingly.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:22 AM   #28
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They are not out to "make a fast buck" or in any way, "racially profile" you as you pass through the town the they work in.
BS. The vast majority of police are just doing their job, but towns that set up speed traps encourage their officers to write tickets to help the town financially. When a town gets the majority of its revenue from speed tickets, what else are we supposed to call it other than a "trap".

Writing a guy a ticket for getting on the gas a little before a speed limit sign is just one example.
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