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Old 11-26-2021, 09:32 AM   #1
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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.

I suppose it is a bit ironic that I drive such a large fuel guzzling RV towing another fuel guzzler to enjoy the great outdoors.

One could even suppose that while I am enjoying the national parks there is another area of the world I am a root cause of the destruction by drilling for the fuels that keep me running.

I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?
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Everything humans do is detrimental to the environment in one way or another. But the trick is to minimize the impact and still live a satisfying life.

So we reduce trips to only the ones necessary and try to combine trips into one. We also drive a fuel guzzler for camping trips. But we usually drive slower "then the average bear", get to a campground, park it and drive a Honda CRV to hiking or skiing snow locations. To my way of thinking, we are being as considerate of the environment as we can and still have fun. Is it perfect....NO, but then what is the definition of perfect?

One time, we were driving the motorhome looking for a forest service campground. I saw a group of 7 young college aged hikers walking down the gravel road and I stopped and asked if they knew where the campground was. One of the youths said "you can't get that big A.. thing in there and look at the carbon footprint you are using. Get off the road and ride a bike!" I thank him for his wise words of wisdom and drove on to find the campground. A while later at the campground, 5 cars drove by and one of them stopped. A young lady got out and apologized for her 'friend' by saying "he is so concerned about the environment" I looked at the 5 cars and said "Yes, I can see he is, but thanks for stopping".
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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.


I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?

No.
Other than considering a lighter and more fuel efficient toad.

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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.

I suppose it is a bit ironic that I drive such a large fuel guzzling RV towing another fuel guzzler to enjoy the great outdoors.

One could even suppose that while I am enjoying the national parks there is another area of the world I am a root cause of the destruction by drilling for the fuels that keep me running.

I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?
I use my equipment as much as possible and do not worry about things like what you are concerned with. There are so many more things out there polluting much more and using much more fuel than my little fuel guzzling thing. I do my part by keeping my stupid DEF system on my coach and driving clean burning vehicles. You and I combined are not going to change anything this crazy world does so enjoy what you have while you are able.
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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.

I suppose it is a bit ironic that I drive such a large fuel guzzling RV towing another fuel guzzler to enjoy the great outdoors.

One could even suppose that while I am enjoying the national parks there is another area of the world I am a root cause of the destruction by drilling for the fuels that keep me running.

I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?
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What JeamLuc said.

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No. I try to be mindful of waste & excessive consumption, e.g. avoid idling, drive at fuel efficient speeds, etc., but the only way I can materially reduce the impact of Rv usage is to stop it altogether. Do the best you can with what you have.
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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.

I suppose it is a bit ironic that I drive such a large fuel guzzling RV towing another fuel guzzler to enjoy the great outdoors.

One could even suppose that while I am enjoying the national parks there is another area of the world I am a root cause of the destruction by drilling for the fuels that keep me running.

I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?
Then, why donít you sell the rv, the cars, the lawn mowers, disconnect your house from natural gas, electricity and water, donít eat beef because cows fart and live in the dark and freeze?
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I have to say that as a person who really enjoys RVing because it enhances my opportunity to get outdoors, I have begun to feel a bit conflicted about my RV's impact on the environment.



I suppose it is a bit ironic that I drive such a large fuel guzzling RV towing another fuel guzzler to enjoy the great outdoors.



One could even suppose that while I am enjoying the national parks there is another area of the world I am a root cause of the destruction by drilling for the fuels that keep me running.



I am curious if anyone else has had this epiphany and if they are doing anything about it (less trips or combining trips or closer trips)?


Not in the least. Iíve worked long and hard at two jobs for decades to just sit on the porch and yell at clouds. Still working and still traveling as much as I can. Once retired, traveling will increase exponentially.
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I doubt if I will ever burn as much fossil fuel as John Kerry does. Or Jeff Bezos. But these resources were placed at our disposal by a higher authority. Why should I disappoint Him.
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Keith,

Nothing like a thoughtful question to bring out the best in IRV2 members!

Yes, like you, I think about it. I haven't come up with too many great answers, but I do try to minimize our overall impact as much as possible. For us, that looks like:
  • Longer stays at most stops to reduce the gas used per trip day ratio. This doesn't reduce the total amount of gas we burn, but we get more "vacation days" per gallon that way.

  • Electric versus propane as much as possible. We don't have an all electric coach, but we can generally get by on electricity if I don't need to heat the wet bay or cook a meal that requires more than one burner (I bought a countertop induction burner that I really like).

    The fireplace and A/C heat pump will keep us warm down to about 32 degrees, the water heater runs on electric, and the residential fridge is electric of course. We aren't boondockers, so the genny only runs on travel days to use the microwave to cook lunch or run the roof air when the outside temps are just too much.

  • Recycle everything than can be recycled. This one's a pain because so few RV parks have recycle bins, but we cart everything around until we find the needed facilities. On our last trip this meant we got home with about 4 large trash bags full of crushed soda cans, paper, and cardboard, but it all got recycled in the end.

  • Reduce our use of plastics as much as possible. So, re-usable containers instead of zip-top bags, re-usable grocery and produce bags, that sort of thing.


I do take some comfort in knowing that our RV travel should (I haven't run the numbers) have a much better carbon footprint than our pre-motorhome travel. Before "the Bus" we travelled by air, stayed a nicer hotels, rented cars, and ate 3 meals a day in restaurants. So, a little better, maybe.

At the end of the day we're not zealots about it, and I'm fully aware that our efforts aren't making much difference in the overall scheme of things, but none of them are hard or the least bit onerous so, why not?

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I am not all that worried about it as the example set in the recent "climate summit" (COP26) was that all of the smartest and wealthiest people in the world flew there in their large private jets. Reports are that there were over 400 personal jets, all of which consume ~500 gallons of fuel per hour (some more or less depending on the size). Point being, if they were truly worried that burning petroleum fuel is detrimental to the planet, and being that they are so smart, then obviously they wouldn't do that... would they? ~CA
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