RV Security

[AFChap]

B-i-l has a Judge that I fired several rounds through last month along with several other handguns and long guns that he owns. I fired birdshot and triple 0 buck ...I really, really liked the Judge, and now I WANT one!! I figure if I get the Magnum version I have all kinds of options for ammo. My only concern now is that after I have looked at handgun laws in states all around the country, it appears that even wtih a CCP it is difficult or even impossible to travel in some states with a handgun ...I know there are all kinds of places in my MH where I could stow a handgun where it would not be found unless they tore the place apart, but not sure I want to go that route...

[pameridan04]

I hear they found that older couple that was camping on their yearly camping trip. They were murdered and burnt to a crisp to try and hide the bodies. The escaped felons were hiding in a camp ground when caught by police. The guys girl friend was going for a gun when she was caught. Ahhh this happened yesterday.

I am not saying a firarm would of saved the day, but it sure as heck wouldn't have hurt.

I have never have had a fire, but I still carry a fire extinguisher, have never had a blow out, but have a spare tire.....

A month or so ago, a guy was killed and partially eaten by a Grizzly bear in a National Park, and two women were seriously injured. They were dragged out of their tents at night as they slept. Firearms are now allowed to be carried in state and national Parks. If I was camping in a wilderness park you can bet your boots I would have at LEAST a 44 Mag under my pillow.

It is also a proven fact, that every state that has approved CCP's that the murder and violent crime rate has dropped dramatically. You won't hear this in the news or on TV, but it's the truth. FBI reports are available for each major city.

To each his own.....

Regards Jim P.

[pameridan04]

AFChap

I am not sure, but there is a law stating that a Motorhome is your house. You are allowed to keep a firearm in your house even in a state that does not allow concealed carry permits.

The Judge is a very nice revolver for home defence. You really don't need the 3 in. cylinder. Remember the farther the jump of the bullet from the cylinder to the throat of the barrel the less accuracy you obtain. Even at a short distance this can make a difference. I am talking a 45 Long Colt slug, not the buckshot or shotgun shell.

For defence I load (2) 00 Buck shot shells, and (3) 45 Long Colts.

Regards.. Jim P.

[AFChap]

I hear they found that older couple that was camping on their yearly camping trip. They were murdered and burnt to a crisp to try and hide the bodies. The escaped felons were hiding in a camp ground when caught by police.

I read on another forum that the couple BOTH had CCP, but no info on whether or not they had weapons with them. The bad guys had earlier kidnapped two truckers and left them alive ...hard to say what went on.

My thinking in wanting the longer cylinder Judge is that I would have that much more choice/chance of finding ammo when I really needed it ...just more options.

Whether or not I am legal with a handgun in my residence in various states isn't my primary concern ...its the fact that when I am driving my "residence" between locations it is a vehicle rather than a "residence." Passing through a restrictive state is one thing, but what if we decide we want to stay the night ...or stay for a week? Then it is a whole new ballgame in some of those restrictive states...

[Route 66]

Every state, county, city, town or incorporated area has different gun laws which are interpreted differently by each officer.

IMHO, when driving or parked, your MH is going to be considered a vehicle and carrying a loaded weapon is prohibited in many areas.

When set up in a camp ground, your MH may be considered a house or vehicle depending where you are, but I believe the odds are in favor of the house.

[chasfm11]

Originally Posted by Route 66

Every state, county, city, town or incorporated area has different gun laws which are interpreted differently by each officer.

IMHO, when driving or parked, your MH is going to be considered a vehicle and carrying a loaded weapon is prohibited in many areas.

When set up in a camp ground, your MH may be considered a house or vehicle depending where you are, but I believe the odds are in favor of the house.

You are right, Dirk. In addition, the rules for the use of deadly force also vary significantly by State.

In WVA, a person without a concealed license can carry a gun but it must be visible. In Texas, under the Motorist Protection Act, a person can carry a gun while traveling but it must remain concealed at all times.. In SC, a gun in a vehicle must ALWAYS be in the glove compartment.

[cunninghamjr]

i have a different security question i have a 2004 revolution with a wolfwest alarm and door locking system the alarm part works but the doors will not lock any ideas thanks bobby

[Rich and Cork]

Here is one review of the gun in question:

The Box O' Truth #41 - The Taurus Judge Vs. The Box O' Truth - Page 1

[pameridan04]

Hi Rich & Cork:

I tried watching the review a couple of times but it freezes up when going to the third page.

Fitst let me say that I have been handloading and shooting for the past 35 years and I do have a Taurus Revolver. I also load 45 Long Colt 200 grn SWC at around 1000 fps for The Judge for a defensive load, no cowboy loads. A good commercial load is Buffalo Bore in .45 LC

And YES the ammo is super important. The best I have used in 410 ga triple ought buck in 2 1/2 in. is the new Federal ammo that just came out 4 months ago. Remember that the AVERAGE distance of a gunfight is 7 yards.... that has not changed. The other supposedly really good stuff is Winchester PDFX1 three disc and pellets combined, but I did not test yet. The easily found regular 410 ga. Winchester 2 1/2 in. buckshot sucks.

I would NEVER recommend birdshot in revolver or shotgun as a defensive load. Wheather it be 12 guage or 410 guage in shotguns, never mind revolvers.

You can usually find the buckshot loads at Cabelas, or Army & Navy Stores, Bass Pro, or you can also order online and have the ammo shipped right to your door. By the way they had 410 guage 2 1/2 in shells BEFORE they came out with 3 in mag shells, so availability to the 2 1/2 in. should be more available.

Regards Jim P.

[az bound]

Federal is producing a self defense load designed specifically for the Taurus. It is basically a .410 loaded with a faster burning handgun powder that yields higher velocities.
There are also .410 slug loads available in both 21/2" and 3" If desired instead of the .45 Long Colt.
With the gaining in popularity of the Judge, .410 amunition has become more redily available. Taurus has not been able to keep up with the demand so availability is limited. The larger gunshops will have priority on orders so that would be the places to look.
I dont want this thread to deteriorate to the point where it would be closed, so I am not going to argue over spacific loads. suffice it to say the "jUDGE" is a formidable weapon for close range and is capable of detering or deadly force.

[pameridan04]

Hi azbound:

Thanks for info on Federal. Why would this cause the thread to be closed ? Am I missing something.

Jim P.

[safari1]

I am not worried about having a hand gun in other states, I am a law abiding citizen and have never been searched or had my vehicle searched. Just dont advertize that you have weapon and I am sure you will not get into trouble from police. In campgrounds I have it inside out of site, but in the forest boondocking and riding ATV's I carry in holster in my own state, which is legal.

[az bound]

Originally Posted by pameridan04

Hi azbound:

Thanks for info on Federal. Why would this cause the thread to be closed ? Am I missing something.

Jim P.

It seems like every time there is any thread started about guns an anti jumps in and its soon closed. Thanks everyone for keeping this one civil.

[motojavaphil]

The thread is shut down? Seems active to me.