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09-16-2016, 04:25 PM
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Shower leaking under the trailer???
Wife took a shower this morning, and there is a puddle under the shower below the dump valve. The dump valves are right under the shower.
I have verified that it is water from the shower, and not from the gray line or the sewer line.
What should I look for under there?
I am hoping it is just the screw-on connector at the drain is loose.
All the ones under the bathroom sink were, and I had to tighten them a couple weeks back.
May need to do the kitchen sink while I am at it?
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09-16-2016, 05:22 PM
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Often too much flooring material is removed for the shower trap. The movement from lack of support can cause the drain pipes to crack. If you can find access above the floor, that is where I would start.
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09-16-2016, 05:48 PM
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Normal with new RV's. They are assembled by folks that really don't care. Good luck.....
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09-16-2016, 08:02 PM
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No access from above, because it is right under the shower. Will have to go in from underneath and take a look.
Good to hear it is (might be) a fairly normal situation.
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09-16-2016, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timetogo
Normal with new RV's. They are assembled by folks that really don't care. Good luck.....
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It is DEFININITELY NOT normal!!! Some manufacturers really do care.
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09-17-2016, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottandanna
No access from above, because it is right under the shower. Will have to go in from underneath and take a look.
Good to hear it is (might be) a fairly normal situation.
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I believe that you have a corner shower. They usually have an access panel screwed or pasted on the front. A photo of your model, that I found online, had a partial view showing a vent of some sort. Look again and see if there is a way to look inside.
My trailer was built by folks that just didn't care and the plumbing was cracked. I repaired that and then made removable wood blocks to reinforce the shower bottom. To do that, the heating duct had to me moved as well. The work was performed thru the access panel.
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09-17-2016, 06:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottandanna
Wife took a shower this morning, and there is a puddle under the shower below the dump valve. The dump valves are right under the shower.
I have verified that it is water from the shower, and not from the gray line or the sewer line.
What should I look for under there?
I am hoping it is just the screw-on connector at the drain is loose.
All the ones under the bathroom sink were, and I had to tighten them a couple weeks back.
May need to do the kitchen sink while I am at it?
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I had a similar problem on our last coach that had a shower curtain for a door, the kind that folds like a window curtain. What I found was the bottom U shaped track channel that the bottom of the curtain traveled in at the area where it folded to wasn't caulked well. I re caulked it and made an additional larger drain hole at each end in the U channel so the water more quickly drained back into the shower tub.
Hope this helps IF you have a curtain type shower door.
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09-17-2016, 10:10 AM
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Yes, I have a heater duct in the front, and just before I got on here, I noticed it. Got on here to ask if I could move the duct out of the way and get to the shower, but it looks like you beat me to it!
Can't get to work until the wife wakes up...
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynnmor
I believe that you have a corner shower. They usually have an access panel screwed or pasted on the front. A photo of your model, that I found online, had a partial view showing a vent of some sort. Look again and see if there is a way to look inside.
My trailer was built by folks that just didn't care and the plumbing was cracked. I repaired that and then made removable wood blocks to reinforce the shower bottom. To do that, the heating duct had to me moved as well. The work was performed thru the access panel.
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09-17-2016, 11:55 AM
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Well lynnmor, THAT did it!
They were all a little loose, but the one that was leaking was WAY loose.
Luckily, they have a pretty good sized hole cut in the floor, so all that water was going straight down to the "basement" and not getting the floor wet.
But, since I am in there, I realized that there is no insulation in that hole, so I have a cold draft coming in while we are trying to heat the trailer, so I will shove some fiberglass insulation in there before I close it up.
We are in the Pacific Northwest, now, so we will need all the insulation we can get in a couple of months.
While tearing into this, I realized just how shoddy some of these trailers are put together. Crappy materials, none of the holes are straight, etc.
My wife said "what do you expect from a $24,000 house? You get what you pay for!"
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09-17-2016, 01:13 PM
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Shower leaking under the trailer???
Look again at my before photo. The flake board floor would push down on the black pipe, cracking it. The new wood in the after photo supports the flake board. Be sure to check that before you button it up.
I'll bet that you and I could do better work with a chainsaw.
Glad that had success with the repair.
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09-17-2016, 04:03 PM
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Mine doesn't have that flake-plywood floor. We have a wood-styrofoam-wood layer under the flooring. And the flooring covers all the way to the back corner behind the shower. It is waterproof, like a single sheet of linoleum wood-textured plastic. Which has been a life-saver several times, as every possible thing that could leak in the bathroom has at one point or another, leaked. And sometimes BADLY!
The drain and water fixtures all leaked on the sink (loose connections). The 30A receptacle comes in through the wall under the sink and we got TONS of water coming in through there when it rained, before I took it off, made a new gasket, and siliconed it all up.
And now the tub, which luckily just leaked down to the "basement".
And the hole is plenty big, from the factory, which is why it stayed dry inside when the shower leaked.
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Originally Posted by lynnmor
Look again at my before photo. The flake board floor would push down on the black pipe, cracking it. The new wood in the after photo supports the flake board. Be sure to check that before you button it up.
I'll bet that you and I could do better work with a chainsaw.
Glad that had success with the repair.
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