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02-12-2009, 07:51 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego County, California
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State of California to DOUBLE vehicle license fees
This is going to happen! Motorhome license to double an as soon has the State Government finishes their budget. This is not east to take, as a state taxpayer, an there is not much I can do. Kind of frustrating. Looking down the barrel at close to 2 grand just for a license plate. OUCH...OUCH!
Any ideas from the forum. L.L.C. in Montana? Can't really move. Grandkids and all.
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Forest River 2018 Forester 3011DS
Honda 2010 CR-V AWD "Toad"
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02-12-2009, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Crossville,TN USA
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Steve and Leslie, I hear you loud and clear. When we lived in Taxachusetts we had to endure an excise tax of around $3000 per year on our then '02 motor home. When it came time to retire we knew not where we would go; but, for many years knew exactly where we would retire from. Now. in TN a plate is $24 per year with no excise tax, although we did get hit with a 7% sales tax when we bought our '04 Dutch Star.
As to Montana, LLC two points to consider.First, some states, i.e. CO have realized that they lost a ton of money where some of their residents had done the Montana, LLC thing. Initially, as reported in the CO press the state filed criminal charges; but, later changed to civil charges with interest and penalties being assessed on alleged past due taxes. How, this will unfold in CO is yet to be seen. My bet is if CO is successful in these tax collections it would seem reasonable for other states to adopt a me too approach.
In your case let's look at logic: CA as other states has mega deficit problems, probably one of the reasons for such a significant increase. Would it not seem probable that they too are aware of the Montana issue and would be on the look out for folks who want to consider what may at best be a short term gain. Secondly, note in many of the RV publications the number of Montana LLCs that are advertising is down from only a few months ago. I doubt that their change in advertising philosophy has diddly squat to do with the downturn in the overall economy.
We are wintering in AZ and the ambulance chasers in zoot suis are still advertising heavily here on TV, Radio, Newspapers, etc.
Good luck however you elect to proceed, Ken...
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02-12-2009, 09:09 AM
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Registered User
Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North of the Mason Dixon Line
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This is just the start of it.....Book2
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02-12-2009, 10:33 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
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This is going to happen! Motorhome license to double an as soon has the State Government finishes their budget.
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Can you provide any reliable documentation to verify this statement?
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02-12-2009, 10:41 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Santa Clara,CA. USA
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Do you think that if our legislators had to pay for their own license fees rather than getting them along with a multitude of other perks they might consider other means? Something like fiscal responsibility. It will be tough for us on a fixed income but with a little AMERICAN spunk we will get by.
The last CA gov. was recalled partly over this issue.
Don WIT 70041
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02-12-2009, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,570
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Hot off the wire today:
After months of heated negotiations and with California on the brink of insolvency, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders have nearly completed a deal to erase the state's giant budget deficit with a mix of tax increases, spending cuts and borrowing.
A vote that would end one of the most contentious and costly stalemates in state history is expected Friday.
Though details are still emerging, the plan to close the state's $40 billion shortfall through mid-2010 includes a series of tax increases and program cuts, as well as a cap on state spending that would go before voters in a special election later this year. The proposal would raise the sales tax by 1 cent on the dollar, nearly double the vehicle license fee that motorists pay annually, increase taxes on gasoline by 12 cents a gallon and impose a 2.5 percent surcharge on personal income taxes.
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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02-12-2009, 11:15 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: San Diego County, California
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LD, want documentation...OK look here: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stori...ear/?uniontrib
An then the newspaper editorial story: http://www3.signonsandiego.com...dget-deal/?uniontrib
Both links to our local newspaper web site.
They say its all temporary, but I would wonder about that. Never knew a tax hike that went away after its been in force for a while. Our State Democratic party has been after the vehicle fees for years and it now seems they are going to be getting their way with us taxpayers. Pray for us.
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Forest River 2018 Forester 3011DS
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02-12-2009, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: San Diego County, California
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wthomas1. I just realized your a Californian also. So this vehicle fee would hit you also. Will not fun to pay this bill.
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Forest River 2018 Forester 3011DS
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02-12-2009, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Central Arkansas
Posts: 198
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Move to Nevada and use the RV to visit grandkids
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02-12-2009, 01:09 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Sonoma County, CA
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Yes we live in the late great state of California. The State of California does everything it can to punish you for being successful. They refuse to cut spending on ANY thing and will tax you on the very air you breathe. Japan charges the lowest fees on the newest cars, thereby giving incentives to purchase new cars with better fuel economy.
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Wayne & Roberta
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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02-12-2009, 01:19 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Sonoma County, CA
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We are considering a move but we now see the grandsons almost every day. I am also heavily involved in the community. We have to weigh all of the pros and cons, so far the grandsons are winning.
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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02-12-2009, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ann Arbor Michigan
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Gee whizz.....
I guess I shouldn't complain about the $300 fee I paying for my plates in Michigan.
Lets see....
We have big time unemployment ( Im retired so it dont affect me)
We have an abundance of fresh water
We dont have wildfires
We dont have mud slides
We dont have a lotta illegal aliens
We dont have Octomom and the expenses to pay for alla her offsprings
We dont have a lotta loonie movie star celebs
but alas we do have to suffer from president pelosi...
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02-12-2009, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: East Texas
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Yep, and even though California already enjoys the highest fuel tax in the U.S., the news today said that Sacramento wants to increase it another 12 cents per gallon.
Retirement can't come fast enough....then I'm outta here. Four years, one month, nine days....but who's counting?
Craig
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02-12-2009, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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$300 will buy my plates for 4 years. If I didn't have the college vanity plate it would buy them for 9 years.
Don't worry about the taxes in California. I think the feds are going to make them look like pikers. They have more states from which to draw their morons.
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2006 Tiffin Phaeton - 2011 Cadillac SRX
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