Tipping

[Mr.Mark]

I have tipped in the past and will in the future. It all depends on the friendliness of the person taking us to our spot. Many times, there is not a person that escorts us.

Generally, the 'escort' never helps me park as it's a pull-through 99% of the time. They will show us the electrical and water connections, sewer, etc.

If I tip, it's $5. Most of the time they put their hands up saying "no no no, thats not necessary" I say "get yourself a coke", and make them take it.

Safe travels,
Mark

[HaRVey 74.5]

I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand with the push for $15-20/hr min. wage to ensure people in those type of jobs can earn a living wage (jobs that are not intended to be full time or a career...), it kind of eliminates the case for tips, on the other hand a "gratuity" is just that and an optional acknowledgement and thanks for a job well done or going above and beyond.

[RickNC]

Originally Posted by HaRVey 74.5

I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand with the push for $15-20/hr min. wage to ensure people in those type of jobs can earn a living wage (jobs that are not intended to be full time or a career...), it kind of eliminates the case for tips, on the other hand a "gratuity" is just that and an optional acknowledgement and thanks for a job well done or going above and beyond.

I had been sitting on that fence along time too. What I have come to realize is that what was once entry level jobs such as fast food and retail have become permanent jobs for many as much of our manufacturing has either become automated or moved overseas. Where I work part-time pays among the top 5 retailers nationally in hourly wages and benefits(forbes review). Even at that level of compensation it is still not enough to maintain a family. Many are making $20 plus and still working 2 retail jobs to make ends meet. $15 an hour is nothing in terms of what living costs are now.

[Itchytoe]

I'm one of those evil people who doesn't tip unless you do something that warrants me giving you my money. Just doing your job doesn't warrant it. Yes, waiters make almost no money from their salary. That's not my fault. They took a horrible paying job. They should quit. When restaurants can't find the wait staff they need, they will increase wages until they get staff just like every single other profession on this planet. Stop taking crappy jobs and wages will increase. It's that simple.


People who give tips are the reason waiters (and other tipped people) are paid next to nothing. Stop tipping and they will make a better living. Yea, it'll be hard on them for a year or so, but they will thank you for it in the long run.



Increasing minimum wage just drives inflation. It takes a few years, so it feels like it makes a difference when it happens, but in the long run, it changes nothing for those making minimum wage. It does, however, reduce the effective income of the middle class that makes more than minimum wage. It's actually bad for society and the economy as a whole to raise (or even have) a minimum wage.

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by Itchytoe

I'm one of those evil people who doesn't tip unless you do something that warrants me giving you my money. Just doing your job doesn't warrant it. Yes, waiters make almost no money from their salary. That's not my fault. They took a horrible paying job. They should quit. When restaurants can't find the wait staff they need, they will increase wages until they get staff just like every single other profession on this planet. Stop taking crappy jobs and wages will increase. It's that simple.

People who give tips are the reason waiters (and other tipped people) are paid next to nothing. Stop tipping and they will make a better living. Yea, it'll be hard on them for a year or so, but they will thank you for it in the long run.

Wow! You're a heartless soul. Many people need a job. Period. You're saying to them to stop taking the crappy jobs. Many of those are high school/college kids and sometimes that's the only jobs they can get. Many are the breadwinners of the family who aren't qualified for professional jobs.

So who is going to wait on you if everyone quits their waiter jobs?

[RiverBurt]

Well, this escalated quickly!

Seems to me the escorts are more hosts enforcing park standards than service providers. I tip accordingly, which is to say I don’t, but will if special needs and having them serviced arise.

In the other circumstances this thread wasn’t intended to be about, I’m a generous tipper, and glad of it.

[CIDE]

Originally Posted by Itchytoe

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Increasing minimum wage just drives inflation. It takes a few years, so it feels like it makes a difference when it happens, but in the long run, it changes nothing for those making minimum wage. It does, however, reduce the effective income of the middle class that makes more than minimum wage. It's actually bad for society and the economy as a whole to raise (or even have) a minimum wage.

This is so true and completely missed by those 'leading the charge'.

[Itchytoe]

Originally Posted by twogypsies

Wow! You're a heartless soul. Many people need a job. Period. You're saying to them to stop taking the crappy jobs. Many of those are high school/college kids and sometimes that's the only jobs they can get. Many are the breadwinners of the family who aren't qualified for professional jobs.

So who is going to wait on you if everyone quits their waiter jobs?

Yes, I know who waiters are. And no, I am not heartless. I'm just not too short sighted to be blind to how other countries handle their wait staff. Honestly, go travel abroad. There are waiters everywhere, and most of them are insulted if you tip them, because it's honestly insulting. Tipping the way it's done here in the states is completely idiotic.
Yes, I'm telling them to stop taking crappy jobs. Go be a cashier at the local hardware store. Change oil at the local Jiffy Lube. Restock groceries at the local market. Go cut grass over the summer. (Heck I did that. It payed pretty darn well) The job you don't take is the one that expects you to be a beggar looking a hand-out because your employer won't pay you enough to live off of. "Will you give me some money to eat with because my employer won't?" Seriously, in what world does that actually make sense?

If everyone quits their waiter jobs, the owner will have no choice but to do it himself, or pay waiters a wage that is high enough to get them to return. It's basic supply and demand. Go look at how waitstaff is handled in other countries. The US will change too, but only if we force ourselves to. Want waiters to make more money, start holding their employers responsible for their wages. It's truly that simple.

[ScoobyDoo]

Originally Posted by HaRVey 74.5

I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand with the push for $15-20/hr min. wage to ensure people in those type of jobs can earn a living wage (jobs that are not intended to be full time or a career...), it kind of eliminates the case for tips, on the other hand a "gratuity" is just that and an optional acknowledgement and thanks for a job well done or going above and beyond.

Well, IMHO reading this thread, every body is missing the major part. The part I support is $15.00 and a union! Without the union, or laws forcing higher pay, it ain't going to happen. If one person will not take the "crappy job" somebody else will. If the big companies that hire people and don't pay them a living wage saw a picket line out front and labor nor customers crossed that line wages would go up.
Around 100 years ago, the unskilled workers where on the assembly lines and in the mines. UAW, and the miners fought to make this country by insisting that even low skilled work paid enough to support a family, buy a car and a washing machine. Today they are assembling sandwiches, not cars, but there still should be a living made.

[Eastham]

Poor soles cant live on $15 to 20 dollars a hour well what do you think the seniors who you are expecting the 20 percent tip from are living on .maybe if you stop your spending on a bunch of useless junk you would have enough money and not expect a handout.Every place you turn now a days someone's wants a free ride.And yes I do usually give the waitress $20 percent unless the food and services are really disgusting.and I also agree bring back the unions and have the company pay them a decent wage.Good night.

[KennyGolub]

Sounds like my DW. She believes folks should be tipped for simply existing.


I always thought that tipping was for "exceptional" service, above and beyond. Now a days, it's considered part of the employees pay check, and if you don't give one big enough, you're just plain evil.


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[Jake21]

I am always amused by the tip cup at the register in a self serve frozen yogurt shop. Shouldn’t I be tipping myself?

[Mr_D]

Here in WA state the servers make the state mandated minimum wage of about $12.50 an hour. In a decent restaurant they can make $30 an hour. It's not easy work but you can make a decent wage + tips here.

[Mojim]

Originally Posted by Mr_D

Here in WA state the servers make the state mandated minimum wage of about $12.50 an hour. In a decent restaurant they can make $30 an hour. It's not easy work but you can make a decent wage + tips here.

Mr. D did you tip the tow truck driver ? ...……..sorry