Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-12-2016, 07:17 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
skypilot_1's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Ozarks
Posts: 1,564
Torque versus HP

If you want pure pulling torque, forget diesel....think STEAM..!


An 850 H.P. John Deere diesel vs.
a steam tractor rated 18 H.P?
It's all about torque and traction...
enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=FLQhvruimfs
__________________
Ret. Military/Corporate Pilot
Summers in the Ozarks-Winters in the Keys
Allegro Bus 36QSP
skypilot_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 06-12-2016, 07:29 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
powderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: N. E. Ohio & Lady Lake Fl.
Posts: 1,118
I was going to try that, but the wife refused to fire the boiler.😁😁
powderman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2016, 07:34 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Pa Miller's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: East Texas
Posts: 716
Lol weight and traction vs light weight no traction ... Neat vidio thanks for posting ��
__________________
1995 Monaco Dynasty
32' B5.9 Banks, 6 speed Alison 3060
2008 HHR Panel toad
Safe-T-Plus
Pa Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2016, 08:39 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
vsheetz's Avatar


 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
Anyone know of a steam conversion kit for a Motorhome. (-:
__________________
Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
vsheetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2016, 07:03 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Glenn and Kathy's Avatar
 
National RV Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2000
Location: California Central Coast
Posts: 2,008
Yet that steamer would be virtually useless on a modern farm.

Glenn
__________________
2006 Sea Breeze LX 8341 on a Workhorse W22 Chassis with 22.5 Alcoa Alum wheels,
2011 Chevy Colorado 4X4 with Ready Brake
Glenn and Kathy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2016, 08:03 AM   #6
Moderator Emeritus
 
Gary RVRoamer's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
Posts: 26,282
An electric motor is another high torque choice. Almost infinite torque available at near-zero RPMs. Just need a big generator (or a really big battery!).
__________________
Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
Gary RVRoamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 10:15 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Chuck_Hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Upper Right Ohio.. or?
Posts: 447
within reason....


steam is slightly better then electric motors... and BOTH have major time/range issues.


ON or OFF road...


as for Steam conversion on a motorhome... ASK Jay Leno and his Crew. His main Service/Repair Garage is Steam Powered.


He and his Crew also restores most Steam Engine Cars.
,
,
__________________
2012 Ford F 250,"XL" 6.2L Gas, 2 wheel drive. 156,000 miles
2005 Coachmen 29FKCS, Front Kitchen... 2005 Honda VTX1800F, 78,000 miles
N.E. Ohio in the Spring, Summer, Autumn.
Chuck_Hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 10:20 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 644
size is the downfall of steam....an electric motor would be fraction the size and weight of that even with the battery.
0rion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 10:23 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 515
I hate threads like this. Its not torque vs horsepower. Horsepower is the rate at which you produce torque.

If you have horsepower, you can always get more torque at the wheels by gearing down. For tow vehicles, focus on engines that produce a high torque number makes sense only because high torque engines mean they produce their horsepower at a low rpm, which is good for durability when used near capacity for long periods of time.

Traction is mostly about weight. A huge boulder would win a tug-of-war with any tractor. Does that make the boulder a good tow vehicle?
cwsqbm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 10:38 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 423
Did anyone notice the connecting bar between the Deere and the steam tractor? The angle produces lift on the Deere. Thus, it would be fairly easy to lift the Deere and reduce its traction considerably. If the connecting bar were parallel with the ground this would be a completely different video.
peterson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 12:20 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,580
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwsqbm View Post
For tow vehicles, focus on engines that produce a high torque number makes sense only because high torque engines mean they produce their horsepower at a low rpm, which is good for durability

I agree, but even that is not altogether true. It takes much higher cylinder pressures, and the resulting load on all the parts, to get the same horsepower with the low RPM. People like the sound of the slow spinning engine and think that it is just loafing, while in fact every bearing, gear tooth, clutch plate etc. is stressed much more.
lynnmor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 05:30 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: No. Central Texas
Posts: 540
CWSQBM - Thank you. I feel better about my prospects of the engine lasting a little longer with my current configuration. I figure I'm getting close to 350 HP and 485 LB/FT. When I get an OBDII scanner, I hope this is confirmed.
__________________
Butch and Peggy
2000 Itasca Suncruiser 32V;Workhorse P-32;7.4L Vortec;Complete Banks Pwr Sys/Air Flow;UltraPower ECM;Steer Safe;Springs/Airbags front;Timbren rear Susp.kit;30amp;Onan 5K Emerald
peggwn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 05:43 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Scatterbrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Chula Vista, Ca.
Posts: 538
Well, that's one way to plow a field, but at the rate their going, it'll be a month before they're ready to seed.
Scatterbrain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2016, 09:37 PM   #14
Community Moderator
 
TonyDi's Avatar


 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
Posts: 29,003
Even though it's flawed, it's still a cool video.

Thanks for posting it.
__________________
Tony & Ruth........... FMCA#F416727
2016 London Aire 4519, Freightliner chassis, Cummins ISX, 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Blue Ox Avail with AF1. TST 507 TPMS
No amount of money can buy you an extra second of time.
TonyDi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Torque or not to torque cmcguire48 Travel Trailer Discussion 22 01-29-2016 04:04 PM
Roadtrek versus Pleasure Way versus Winnebago ERA versus Airstream Interstate 3500 anderjer Class B Motorhome Discussions 63 10-28-2013 09:36 AM
Garmin 255W versus Garmin 750 Tom-NC Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. 7 12-07-2008 03:31 PM
Lug nut torque and a torque multiplier on sale Clay L Workhorse and Chevrolet Chassis Motorhome Forum 18 12-06-2008 04:38 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.