Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-17-2017, 11:47 AM   #85
Senior Member
 
Gadget Man's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: East Texas
Posts: 2,266
TruCenter Solenoid Problems with Pics!

RVThere,

I installed my TruCenter myself as well. Why in the world Blue Ox doesn't provide this electrical requirement in their installation instructions in beyond me. My TruCenter issue is the actuator. My solenoid does click when I hit the button, but the actuator will not hold the wheel while driving.

I hope this info will help others who haven't given up on their unit. I for one have. Unlike the Safe-T-Plus, the TruCenter stabilizer on it's own did not provide me with any noticeable steering support after the actuator quit engaging. It's too bad, I used to be a big fan of Blue Ox products.

Thanks for the update.
__________________
2005 Fleetwood Providence 39J
CAT C7 350, MP-8 Power Module

My wife does all the driving - I just hold the wheel...
Gadget Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-17-2017, 03:11 PM   #86
Senior Member
 
cvbdsl's Avatar
 
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by myarmar View Post
You would have to open the box to get access to the mounting screws inside. If the box is loose remove the trucenter ASAP before you lost the box completely.
Thanks all for the replies. I just took the True Center off and will take a test run in the next day or two. This thread just might have saved me the cost of a wheel alignment, plus making our fall trip much easier.

Now that I have it off, I'll also see if a direct connection with 10G wire makes a difference. If not I'll take it apart and see what's going on. I'll also see about contacting Blue OX to see what options they offer.

Thanks again.

Chris
__________________
Retired Canadian Army WO (1972-2000)
2019 Georgetown 31L5 GT5
(1Bounder, 2 Dutch Stars, 1 HR Scepter, 1 HR Monarch and now 1 away from divorce)
cvbdsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2017, 11:46 AM   #87
Senior Member
 
Dynasty_09's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St-Colomban
Posts: 416
Chris,
did you get your problem fixed with your Trucenter???
__________________
Michel & Nicole
2009 Monaco Dynasty Yorkshire 45
(ISM 500HP, Scangauge D, Eeze tire TPMS, Working Truecenter) 20' trailer and a race car
Dynasty_09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2017, 08:48 AM   #88
Senior Member
 
cvbdsl's Avatar
 
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 692
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty_09 View Post
Chris,
did you get your problem fixed with your Trucenter???
Actually no. I took it off and it did not make any difference. I spent several hundred on alignments (plus mounting and remounting and balancing some tires) and it was finally determined that my pull to one side was caused by an badly out of round tire (now moved to the tag) and a bent rim. The bent rim seems to be the main culprit. The pull is not quite so bad but still a pain.
Tried to buy a new rim but didn't find one before our long trip in the fall.

By the time we got back from the trip I never got the chance to look for a rim to see if that was the real problem. Come April/May when I get her back on the road I'll get a new rim.

As for the TrueCenter, it was my intention to take it apart, but again the cold weather came early and it is sitting in my (unheated) garage. Since we're undergoing a record cold spell it will be a few months before I try taking it apart. I doubt that I'll be able to fix anything on it though.

The TrueCenter would have been nice on the trip, had some really wild cross winds with strong gusts near Halifax NS that caused some white knuckle driving(yes even this big rig with a tag was being moved around a lot) and I kept on wondering if it would have been easier to keep it steady with a TrueCenter or something similar.

After I change the rim and test drive I'll see if the pocket book can spring for a new TrueCener.


Happy New Year

Chris
__________________
Retired Canadian Army WO (1972-2000)
2019 Georgetown 31L5 GT5
(1Bounder, 2 Dutch Stars, 1 HR Scepter, 1 HR Monarch and now 1 away from divorce)
cvbdsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2017, 03:07 PM   #89
Senior Member
 
Dynasty_09's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St-Colomban
Posts: 416
Chris,
I had to pamper the TruCenter on my old MH but was always able to make it working and really loved it for the long rides cross wind.

When I bought this Dynasty I had to go three times at the alignment shop for a constant pull to the right. They are a well known truck shop and normally do a quality job but this tiem it was a bit harder to get satisfaction. They said they couldn't adjust the Caster. I had to show them how to do it! Anyway, now it's perfect and it tracks straight and true without any pulling. But I still wanted the possibility of recentering the steering on the fly and,of course, the tire blow-out protection.

I looked at the Safe-T-Plus & Trim kit but found it too expensive (for now).

So I bought a used (1 year old - $100) TruCenter and applied the same treatment I did before.

After using and playing with my TruCenter, I found that the main problems were:
  • Water infiltration
    • I removed the cover at one time and found the solenoid was completely immersed in water
  • Poor connections and voltage
    • They are using crimp connectors between the solenoid and the wiring harness. It's a no-no!
  • Stroke of the solenoid
    • The solenoid has no resting place. It could be a bit too far and would require more force to bring it back.
The TruCenter by itself is very simple in the design and operation and there is just a few parts.

I called Blue Ox last week to find if they had change their solenoid and the told me no and actually they said they are not manufacturing the TruCenter anymore. I asked how much would be a new solenoid and they said $175US. What a damn rip-off!

So here is what I did on my units
  1. Remove the box cover by unscrewing the 4 Philips screws
  2. Remove the actuator cotter pin
  3. Remove the 2 bolts holding the base and the actuator
  4. Remove the 2 bolts holding the small cover plate in the front of the TruCenter
Now for the fixes I did:
  1. Drill a 1/8" hole in the lower part of the top cover to evacuate any water that could enter
  2. Properly oil the actuator points
  3. Cut the crimped connectors between the solenoid and the wiring harness and weld the wires instead
  4. Put a bit of gasket silicone between the TruCenter body and the base + Remount the base with the two bolts
  5. Put a spring pin in the hole of the solenoid plunger and the actuator (Make sure the diameter is not too big since it will bind the plunger and actuator. I took a .100")
  6. Install an extension spring between the base of the solenoid and the Spring pin. Use a cutter pin inserted in the hole close to the base of the spring, measure the distance so the cover will prevent it to slip out (Make sure the spring is not too strong and that it just removes the free play between the actuator and the plunger)
  7. Test the system by applying 12 volts to the solenoid. You should hear a constant loud click!
  8. Seal the cover with silicone gasket
  9. Seal the front small cover
  10. When installing, I prefer to install with a direct connection to a chassis 12 volts and bypass the electronic board. Just remember to not hold the switch for more than 15 second.
  11. I'll install this one with a foot switch
I hope you'll get good results like I did. Mine was trouble free for more than 2 years!
P.s. Adjust the distance between the two bolts for 35" before installing on the tie rod
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6246.JPG
Views:	48
Size:	521.1 KB
ID:	187278   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6236.JPG
Views:	62
Size:	456.0 KB
ID:	187279  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6245.JPG
Views:	41
Size:	425.2 KB
ID:	187280   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6247.JPG
Views:	40
Size:	457.2 KB
ID:	187281  

Attached Files
__________________
Michel & Nicole
2009 Monaco Dynasty Yorkshire 45
(ISM 500HP, Scangauge D, Eeze tire TPMS, Working Truecenter) 20' trailer and a race car
Dynasty_09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 10:23 AM   #90
Senior Member
 
cvbdsl's Avatar
 
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 692
Dynasty 09
Thanks for the great write up and pictures and I'll bookmark this post.
Come spring I'll take mine apart and have close look at trying your fix, assuming that the solenoid still works.

Strange that they say they are not selling/making them anymore as I've seen them very recently at a dealership.
Just checked the Blue Ox website and they still list them as well. Maybe they are just getting rid of stock now

Again thanks for great post.

Chris
__________________
Retired Canadian Army WO (1972-2000)
2019 Georgetown 31L5 GT5
(1Bounder, 2 Dutch Stars, 1 HR Scepter, 1 HR Monarch and now 1 away from divorce)
cvbdsl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 10:26 AM   #91
Senior Member
 
Dynasty_09's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St-Colomban
Posts: 416
Chris,
Yes, I think they are getting rid of the stock.

If you need anything else, let me know.

Have a fantastic 2018!
__________________
Michel & Nicole
2009 Monaco Dynasty Yorkshire 45
(ISM 500HP, Scangauge D, Eeze tire TPMS, Working Truecenter) 20' trailer and a race car
Dynasty_09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Solenoid Problems nplenzick Monaco Owner's Forum 13 07-22-2011 06:03 AM
Help with LP Gas Alarm - Tank Solenoid phays Country Coach Owners Forum 4 10-18-2010 12:34 PM
HWH Solenoid replacement Zbugsii MH-General Discussions & Problems 1 10-17-2010 06:54 PM
2010 Monaco Riptide Problems (ATS & Disconnect Switch) Riptide Monaco Owner's Forum 7 09-02-2010 07:26 PM
Brake Problems lera Alpine Coach Owner's Forum 4 04-05-2009 12:07 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.