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09-18-2018, 10:36 PM
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Water pressure vs length/type of hose
I spend summers parked on my daughter's property. The only flat spot where we can park is abought 120 feet from a water faucet. Last year my water pressure was really low. This summer we’re about 15’ further away so I swapped out a 35’ Camco hose for a 50’ Flexzilla hose. Now water pressure is a joke.
Does a softer hose material reduce water pressure, or is it the additional length that makes the difference? Any suggestions on how to improve water pressure?
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09-18-2018, 10:40 PM
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What size hose are you using?
Get a 3/4" or larger hose....but $$$
Better yet......fill your fresh water tank and use the on-board pump
I haven't connected to 'city water'--use a hose---since 2008
Use the fresh water tank and pump only. Consistent water pressure and flow no matter where we go.
Low pressure can fill your fresh water tank so use current hoses for that
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09-18-2018, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
What size hose are you using?
Get a 3/4" or larger hose....but $$$
Better yet......fill your fresh water tank and use the on-board pump
I haven't connected to 'city water'--use a hose---since 2008
Use the fresh water tank and pump only. Consistent water pressure and flow no matter where we go.
Low pressure can fill your fresh water tank so use current hoses for that
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Was thinking the same thing.
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09-18-2018, 10:58 PM
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A drop in pressure is normal. Called physics! I hope you have the 5/8 line not the 3/8 line. Bigger is is better. I would also put the pressure reducer on the RV side not at the house. Remember the RV is not rated for high pressure the house usually provides so always use the pressure reducer.
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09-18-2018, 11:12 PM
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I'm with Old-Biscuit on this. I don't think it's as much pressure, as it is flow and or volume. The longer hose you use the more resistance you have. If I remember correctly, each pipe size you increase, you increase the volume by 4 times. Distance increases friction, and friction is not your friend.
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09-19-2018, 01:49 AM
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The hoses are 5/8”. I really think the flexzilla hose is a larger part of the problem. When I first turn on the water the stream is almost normal, but it quickly reduces down to a trickle.
I'll fill the fresh tank tomorrow. It may take hours to get 44 gallons onboard. And I don’t think I'll buy any more soft hoses. Next summer I'm going to run some 3/4” PVC pipe most of the way.
And I learned the hard way that I need to put the reducer at the faucet. Phoenix city water pressure exploded a nearly new hose.
Thanks for your help!
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09-19-2018, 04:40 AM
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As you add length and connections, you increase the friction loss thru the hose. Friction loss reduces volume, not pressure.
The pressure is still there, but the volume drops down. That's why it flows good at first and then slows down.
Next year run some PEX tubing and put your pressure reducer at the RV end.
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09-19-2018, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by okmunky
The hoses are 5/8”. I really think the flexzilla hose is a larger part of the problem. When I first turn on the water the stream is almost normal, but it quickly reduces down to a trickle.
I'll fill the fresh tank tomorrow. It may take hours to get 44 gallons onboard. And I don’t think I'll buy any more soft hoses. Next summer I'm going to run some 3/4” PVC pipe most of the way.
And I learned the hard way that I need to put the reducer at the faucet. Phoenix city water pressure exploded a nearly new hose.
Thanks for your help!
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Barb,
When you first turn on the faucet and it comes out strong that is static pressure. Normal for every water source. Once you open up a valve (like the shower) then you’re pressure will drop and so does the flow. Every one is correct about the long hose restricting water flow. Also you didn’t say are you parked uphill from the faucet? If you’re uphill then that’s a problem I always try to fill up my 72 gallon fresh tank and use the water pump. I just set the hose in the port turn it on low and do other things until it starts coming out, it really doesn’t take that long.
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09-19-2018, 02:16 PM
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I am late to the party on this thread, but I agree with filling your tank and running your water pump. If there is a reason you are unable to do that (and there can be a reason for every situation), I would suggest a 1" EDPM Rubber washdown hose. The 1" interior diameter allows for PLENTY of water flow. They can be bought online and cost about 2.60 per foot, plus shipping and end fittings. This IS a lot of money for a water hose, BUT... I have 3 EDPM rubber hoses I bought in 1984 and still use all the time. They have been left out in the sun over entire summers and are still flexible and don't leak. That is 34 years of service and still going strong. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for. A 50' hose with end fittings and shipping will cost you around 175.00. Divide that over 30 years and it is 5.83 per year. That is a bargain! If you are near a larger city, look for an industrial hose supply. You can buy it there and save the shipping costs. Buying a cheap water hose (that will kink and drive you crazy) every year will cost you far more. Just my opinion. You can put $5 with it and get a small coffee at Starbucks.
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09-20-2018, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OldandOlder
I am late to the party on this thread, but I agree with filling your tank and running your water pump. If there is a reason you are unable to do that (and there can be a reason for every situation), I would suggest a 1" EDPM Rubber washdown hose. The 1" interior diameter allows for PLENTY of water flow. They can be bought online and cost about 2.60 per foot, plus shipping and end fittings. This IS a lot of money for a water hose, BUT... I have 3 EDPM rubber hoses I bought in 1984 and still use all the time. They have been left out in the sun over entire summers and are still flexible and don't leak. That is 34 years of service and still going strong. Sometimes you really do get what you pay for. A 50' hose with end fittings and shipping will cost you around 175.00. Divide that over 30 years and it is 5.83 per year. That is a bargain! If you are near a larger city, look for an industrial hose supply. You can buy it there and save the shipping costs. Buying a cheap water hose (that will kink and drive you crazy) every year will cost you far more. Just my opinion. You can put $5 with it and get a small coffee at Starbucks.
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I have not found a manufacturer that recommends EPDM for potable water. But to each his own.
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09-20-2018, 06:27 PM
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For 5 pieces of 1" pvc pipe 20' (100') long and a few fittings, you can solve the issue. Put a hose connection at both ends.
Another idea is if there is power 120vac nearby, to buy a pump to put inline. Find one with a 65psi pressure rating.
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09-20-2018, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by okmunky
I spend summers parked on my daughter's property. The only flat spot where we can park is abought 120 feet from a water faucet. Last year my water pressure was really low. This summer we’re about 15’ further away so I swapped out a 35’ Camco hose for a 50’ Flexzilla hose. Now water pressure is a joke.
Does a softer hose material reduce water pressure, or is it the additional length that makes the difference? Any suggestions on how to improve water pressure?
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Flexible hoses do drop pressure when being used. I would stick with an old school type.
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09-20-2018, 06:56 PM
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I'm suprised! Uphill?? So, how big are your interior plumbing lines? From my C in Fluid Dynamics from a State College, I'd say that's your restriction. The Laminar Effect, the drag caused by the walls of the hose verses the free flow away from the walls of the hose, of the 5/8" hose times the length hose, is far less than the 3/8" interior plumbing, plus the 90* corners, faucets valves, etc. But if that's what you're seeing, that's what it is. Make sure you have a good high flow pressure regulator, your filter isn't plugged, then maybe run parellel waterlines to reduce your laminar effect even fruther. A single 5/8"id hose provides .31sqin of area of water to 3/8"id interior lines capable of carrying .11 sqin. This should work.
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09-21-2018, 05:56 AM
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If there is electricity near the faucet you could get a small booster pump made for your situation.
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