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Old 11-30-2022, 10:27 AM   #1
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Winter - Exhaustive List of winter or storage must do items - your input

I wanted to make a complete list/exhaustive list
of winter or storage must do or must consider items
Please review and tell me what I missed or other prudent items
Probably you learned from experience .....

Winter/storage items to consider:

Maintenance - routine annual engine – old engine oil can corrode engine
Maintenance - routine annual coach
Ensure adequate antifreeze in engine, generator, window washers
Water heater - replace anode & descale
Repair and upgrades - during off season – when shops aren’t backed up
Order long lead items, e.g. slide toppers, awnings, shades, etc
Tires work - during off season – when shops aren’t backed up
Batteries – Small batteries, e.g. tool batteries - Ensure charged – best left charged over winter
Mildew – take action if mildew in coach over winter is a problem
Refrigerator – leave empty & prop’d open
Food – mice – remove any food sources
Coach cover – leaks can be devastating and the sun uv rays deteriorate the exterior
Furnace - check out – you might need during the winter for some reason
Master switches - turn off both
Shades - close due to uv rays deteriorating
Valuables - Remove e.g. cameras, computers, TVs. Break-ins happen.
Catalytic converter - paint yellow, scribe name, install lock mechanism, etc
Make plan to start/drive monthly and exercise generator
Windshield wipers – cover due to uv rays, use split foam noodle
Mice – ensure any/all openings are sealed.
Batteries – Electric bikes – Charge, best to leave charged over winter
Fuel tank – completely full & use additives, moisture, biocide, etc
Batteries - dry cells - take out of devices, e.g. voltmeter, clocks, dry cell leak/corrode when fully discharged
Propane - turn off, completely full (in case needed during winter)
Jacks - store retracted, lowest energy state & less exposure
Store slides in & awnings shut
Locks - on hitches of trailer, 5th wheel, trailers, receiver accessories
Lock compartments
Locks – lubricate before freezing & severe cold
Remove items that can freeze e.g. distilled water for batteries, cleaning fluids
Food - clean up any food debris, garbage, any food source even crumbs
Insulation – windows, pipes, ceiling vents, etc, as required
Safety – evaluate any space heaters left running
Electrical - turn off breakers
Maintenance items - make list of any or you’ll forget & ticklers
Park reservations - make long lead reservations for hard to get parks
Pests – create scarement area around RV, no food, water or nesting area, no garbage cans, landscaping, wood storage, create inhospitable environment around RV, ideally a gravel pad
Maintenance list - check all systems, accessories, systems, appliances to ID issues, order parts and plan service
Air tanks – bleed out any water using lanyards
Freezing - ensure hoses, hose nozzles, filter canisters, softeners, etc are empty of water
Pests - put out pesticides for insects & rodents
Pests - clean oven & cooktop, grills, grill tools, remove spices/cooking oil
Cover bikes, bike racks, kayaks, etc, protect from freezing water or UV rays
Fire - take out flammable/combustibles e.g. lighter fluid, self-starting brickettes
Pests - remove pet food & pet treats
Freezing - Winterize fresh water system, sewer valves, washer, plumbing traps, refrigerator ice maker, water heater, leave tanks empty
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:42 AM   #2
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Couple of items:


Protect tires from UV
Cover A/C with cover, helps to keep dust and stuff out
Add a stabllizer to generator/main fuel tanks
Cover windshield (inside or outside devices)
Pull blackout blinds on windows
Treat slide seals




Probably others
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A few reactions / thoughts... some depend on the environment you are in so expect diffrrent replies. I'm inland NE so relatively cold dry air in winter.

Monthly run of gennie under >50%:load a goid practice - run more than charger to get load. 5 min no load before shutting down a good practice. Exercising/ cleaning / lubricating jacks monthly a good practice if running gen. I store my MH w jacks retracted and on blocks just shy of retracted jack ht so it settles on blocks when suspension dumps. 30-60 min charge will likely never get to 100% SOC as that takes many hours. I prefer maintainers if/where possible.

Tires inflated to / close to max sidewall pressure and on plywood to avoid mousture (I'm covered but on gravel)

Unless you are taking the MH for a 30-40 ride I wouldn't bother. Idling in place worse than leaving it sit.

Charge battys and disconnect or keep on a maintainer or monitor to see how quickly they discharge if left connected. This will depend a lot on batty type. I leave disconnected boat AGM battys for 6 mos and they are typically 12.5 - 12.6V in spring

I dont believe Li battys like full charge storage so double check those

If you are in a location where Cat Conv theft is a possibility I would not store bikes, bike racks, tow bars unless they were inside & out of sight. Mice like paper towels, tissues, bar soap so we clear that stuff in long term storage.
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Only thing I would add to the bottom of the list is,
book flights to Orlando.

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Old 12-02-2022, 02:48 PM   #5
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Updated list per input ...

Winter/storage items to consider:

Supplies - Purchase RV antifreeze before the first freeze day when none is available. Purchase - heated water hose - before the first freeze day when none is available. Purchase a winterizing kit to add at the pump - before the first freeze day when none is available.
Maintenance - routine annual engine – old engine oil can corrode engine
Maintenance - routine annual coach
Ensure adequate antifreeze in engine, generator, window washers
Water heater - replace anode & descale
Repair and upgrades - during off season – when shops aren’t backed up
Order long lead items, e.g. slide toppers, awnings, shades, etc
Tires work - during off season – when shops aren’t backed up
Batteries – Small batteries, e.g. tool batteries - Ensure charged – best left charged over winter
Mildew – take action if mildew in coach over winter is a problem
Refrigerator – leave empty & prop’d open
Food – mice – remove any food sources
Coach cover – leaks can be devastating and the sun uv rays deteriorate the exterior
Furnace - check out – you might need during the winter for some reason
Master switches - turn off both
Shades - close due to uv rays deteriorating
Valuables - Remove e.g. cameras, computers, TVs. Break-ins happen.
Catalytic converter - paint yellow, scribe name, install lock mechanism, etc
Make plan to start/drive monthly and exercise generator
Windshield wipers – cover due to uv rays, use split foam noodle
Mice – ensure any/all openings are sealed.
Batteries – Electric bikes – Charge, best to leave charged over winter
Fuel tank – completely full & use additives, moisture, biocide, etc
Batteries - dry cells - take out of devices, e.g. voltmeter, clocks, dry cell leak/corrode when fully discharged
Propane - turn off, completely full (in case needed during winter)
Jacks - store retracted, lowest energy state & less exposure
Store slides in & awnings shut
Locks - on hitches of trailer, 5th wheel, trailers, receiver accessories
Lock compartments
Locks – lubricate before freezing & severe cold
Remove items that can freeze e.g. distilled water for batteries, cleaning fluids
Food - clean up any food debris, garbage, any food source even crumbs
Insulation – windows, pipes, ceiling vents, etc, as required
Safety – evaluate any space heaters left running
Electrical - turn off breakers
Maintenance items - make list of any or you’ll forget & ticklers
Park reservations - make long lead reservations for hard to get parks
Pests – create scarement area around RV, no food, water or nesting area, no garbage cans, landscaping, wood storage, create inhospitable environment around RV, ideally a gravel pad
Maintenance list - check all systems, accessories, systems, appliances to ID issues, order parts and plan service
Air tanks – bleed out any water using lanyards
Freezing - ensure hoses, hose nozzles, filter canisters, softeners, etc are empty of water
Pests - put out pesticides for insects & rodents
Pests - clean oven & cooktop, grills, grill tools, remove spices/cooking oil
Cover bikes, bike racks, kayaks, etc, protect from freezing water or UV rays
Fire - take out flammable/combustibles e.g. lighter fluid, self-starting brickettes
Pests - remove pet food & pet treats
Freezing - Winterize fresh water system, sewer valves, washer, plumbing traps, refrigerator ice maker, water heater, leave tanks empty
Tires - store at max pressure and on wood, install covers
AC units - put on covers
Slide gaskets - treat with 303
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Only thing I would add to the bottom of the list is,
book flights to Orlando.

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Don't think you'd have time to go to Florida if you tried to do everything on that list.

Imo,, it depends on how and where you store.

Down here in SE Texas, parked under the carport doesn't require near that much work for storage. Common sense things like keeping fuel tank full (I don't use any additives), maintaining tire pressure (parked on a rock driveway), maintaining batteries, removing food, and cracking the frig doors pretty much covers it. I don't drain the plumbing until a hard freeze is forecast.

I do monthly pm, driving, genset run, and cycling the hydraulic jacks. My annual maintenance takes place in spring. This includes replacing fluids, chassis lubrication, checking coach sealants, and going over the entire rig to make sure everything works. Wash, and sometimes wax, takes place about that time as well.

That is definitely an exhaustive list that I'm glad I don't have to routinely perform.
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Unless you are taking the MH for a 30-40 ride I wouldn't bother. Idling in place worse than leaving it sit.

Can someone expand on this?


On occasion, I've been known to start up the engine and let it run for a few minutes. Also shift into reverse/forward and move the RV a couple feet. I figured it is a good thing just to let things lubricate a bit/etc. Good idea or bad idea? Maybe I should run them at least a mile or two?


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I would say this applies more to modern diesel engines due to emissions. Idle is hard on today's diesel engine (ex.particulate filter and coking, etc.).

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If I recall I read a manufacturers recommendation on my Michelin tires that you should drive the RV monthly ideally to extend the life of the tires. It makes sense to me that the tires just sitting for months and months could put stress on the cords and the rubber. I'd expect that using them is better than them sitting.

My first two motorhomes were older motor homes with very low mileage. They both had similar issues/failures due to seals/o-rings from sitting. e.g. rear end seal, transmission rear seal, AC compressor seal, AC hose connection seals, etc, etc. Mechanical things seem to break if they sit up. Yes a few months is probably not a problem in the long run but cumulatively sitting up in storage adds up

My opinion is that the ideal is to occasionally drive your RV if you store it for the winter if possible ... I can't imagine it would be a bad thing ...

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A few reactions / thoughts... some depend on the environment you are in so expect diffrrent replies. I'm inland NE so relatively cold dry air in winter.

Monthly run of gennie under >50%:load a goid practice - run more than charger to get load. 5 min no load before shutting down a good practice. Exercising/ cleaning / lubricating jacks monthly a good practice if running gen. I store my MH w jacks retracted and on blocks just shy of retracted jack ht so it settles on blocks when suspension dumps. 30-60 min charge will likely never get to 100% SOC as that takes many hours. I prefer maintainers if/where possible.

Tires inflated to / close to max sidewall pressure and on plywood to avoid mousture (I'm covered but on gravel)

Unless you are taking the MH for a 30-40 ride I wouldn't bother. Idling in place worse than leaving it sit.

Charge battys and disconnect or keep on a maintainer or monitor to see how quickly they discharge if left connected. This will depend a lot on batty type. I leave disconnected boat AGM battys for 6 mos and they are typically 12.5 - 12.6V in spring

I dont believe Li battys like full charge storage so double check those

If you are in a location where Cat Conv theft is a possibility I would not store bikes, bike racks, tow bars unless they were inside & out of sight. Mice like paper towels, tissues, bar soap so we clear that stuff in long term storage.
Thanks for the tip, I just put my motorhome tires on plywood and then placed the blocks under the unextended jacks and deflated the air bags. Tires still touch the floor but its evident that all the weight is now off the tires. I also inflated them to 120 PSI (per the Michelin owners guide).
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Can someone expand on this?


On occasion, I've been known to start up the engine and let it run for a few minutes. Also shift into reverse/forward and move the RV a couple feet. I figured it is a good thing just to let things lubricate a bit/etc. Good idea or bad idea? Maybe I should run them at least a mile or two?


Thanks!
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Idling or short run doesn't heat engine, exhaust to full operating temp. Coolant temp alone not a good measure - the engine oil only gets hot enough to drive off moisture with a good run under load. So each short run adds moisture but not hot enough to drive it off.
Tires best if they heat up to get rid of flat spots and bring compounds in the rubber to the surface. While short run not detrimental like moisture in engine, it's not as beneficial as some believe. Short run frequently not sufficient to add as much AH to chassis battys as starting removed. Not a problem if plugged in or charged but some consider av15 min idle as "topping off the battys" when they are fooling them selves.
A 30-45 min run should be a plus if done periodically but IMO that run every 3 months is better than 10 min every month.
Running a gen is somewhat similar.... load it at least 50% and run it for 45-60 min periodically. Remove load for 5 min before shutting down. Gens have more problems from lack of use or improper running (light loads). Charging battys is next to no load for a gen.

I have stored boats ( both gas & diesel) w/o power for charging and unable to run them for 6 mos. I've done this for 30 years with no negatives and there are 1,000s of others that do the same up north.

Others may have different opinions but that's mine.
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together. It's nice to get opinions from the group as well.

I just wanted to point out that even though this list was designed for motorhomes, many of the items should be followed with a TT/5th wheel as well.
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Here in Minnesoa I park mine in the fall and leave it sit till spring. I do keep it plugged in now after replacing the converter with a smart charger. Driving it here on the crappy roads in the salty enviromentis not something I want to do. I've also never seen the neighbor take his combine out for a drive in the winter either. no problems with either one.
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