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01-20-2022, 01:27 PM
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Would you take this deal?
I'm trying to sell my 2019 Fleetwood Bounder 35k, low miles in excellent condition. It has suspension upgrades (Roadmaster front & rear sway bars, Roadmaster steering stabilizer shock and Supersteer rear trac bar) Also, it has We-Boost RV 4G-X. I think fair retail value is somewhere between 125k-135k. That said, so far I have only had tire kickers inquiring, though it has only been a couple weeks and I haven't advertised aggressively.
The owner of my local GM/Cadillac dealer wants the motorhome for himself. He is offering me a 2022 GMC Canyon 4WD Denali, MSRP $46190.00 and a 2022 Cadillac XT6 Premium Luxury, MSRP $61515.00 in a straight up trade. In AZ you only pay sales tax on the difference between what you are buying versus the value of the trade. AZ tax is apprx 8% so that's an additional $8600.00 in sales tax that I would not have to pay. I'm in the market for two new vehicles anyway and I have been looking at both these models. I hate leaving money on the table but in essence I would be trading it to him for $116k taking into consideration the sales tax savings.
Is it worth waiting/hoping for a qualified private party to sell it retail? I'm basically paying full retail for the new cars, car market right now has little negotiation off of MSRP and he is giving me wholesale value of 107k not considering the sales tax, that's just AZ tax law, he is not giving that to me.
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01-20-2022, 01:43 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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If I hear "here's the deal" one more time, there's gonna be a reckoning.
I think your getting the short end.
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01-20-2022, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TandW
If I hear "here's the deal" one more time, there's gonna be a reckoning.
I think your getting the short end.
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Of course he is getting the short end. Have you ever seen a dealer take the short end?
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01-20-2022, 02:34 PM
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Have him throw in undercoating and some floor mats and that'll even it out.
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01-20-2022, 02:43 PM
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If you are concerned that you could do better retailing your coach, list it for sale for two weeks and THEN decide!
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01-20-2022, 03:49 PM
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If I wanted rid of the motorhome I would probably take it.
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01-20-2022, 05:38 PM
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Get him to pay the license fees and free oil changes during the life of the warranty. After that decide what your time and aggravation is worth in selling an RV and getting the funds transferred.
Three years ago, you could beat MSRP by 10%, but currently vehicle inventory is so that they aren't making deals.
Have you added in the sales of the two vehicles you're replacing? That should be added to the overall value.
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01-20-2022, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple H
....I think fair retail value is somewhere between 125k-135k....
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You need to find the actual retail and wholesale prices. Until you know those numbers, you are flying blind.
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01-20-2022, 06:14 PM
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And, he is not paying MSRP for those vehicles.
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01-20-2022, 07:06 PM
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The upgrades on the RV add very little to the sales price of the RV to a new owner. If you are lucky you might find a buyer that would go for 30% of the added cost.
The way to look at the deal is wholesale cost against wholesale cost.
KEn
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01-20-2022, 07:33 PM
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I'd go for it if I were really interested in the vehicles the dealer was offering for trade, if he took care of all the paper work, and if he paid for all the incidentals (any taxes, registration, fees, etc,,,).
Would be nice and easy versus advertising, fooling around with tire kickers, taking chances with test drives, and making sure not to get scammed in some way.
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01-20-2022, 08:15 PM
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Hummmmmm
What to sell the MH
What to buy 2 vehicles
Straight across trade........MH for 2 new vehicles
DONE!
*it's not about the 'money'---it's about swapping something you want to get rid of for something you want to get.
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01-20-2022, 10:01 PM
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If you do the deal, get him to throw in Oil changes for life on the new cars. He probably won’t flinch at that, but will save you some money.
My brother in law did that on a Honda, and ended up driving it for over 400k miles and never paid for an oil change.
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01-20-2022, 10:08 PM
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Let us know what you do...inquiring minds would like to know.
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