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Old 05-09-2019, 06:16 PM   #43
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It’s not safer , as I explained as a life long resident that’s the “law “ that has never been changed because the people won’t allow it to be changed .. many have tried gas dealers ,some legislators etc
It’s just one of those Oregon things. As someone who lived with it for years I liked having the car serviced while I get a coke don’t have my hand smell like gas and pay less than nearby states. Every where has those who don’t follow the rules and there are those stations that didn’t care or employees that didn’t to be accurate.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:44 PM   #44
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...I'm wondering should/do you tip the gas station attendant ?
I have lived in NJ my entire life so to me its a tad odd when I'm out-of-state and pull into a gas station and there is no service station attendant to take care of me.
<just saying>

Back to the topic...
I always tip the attendant $1.00 whether I'm getting $20 worth the gas in my little Toyota or $90 worth the Diesel in my RV. If I'm getting a 'fill' I let him keep the 'loose-change' part plus give him the one dollar tip.

As a side note...
Two of my vehicles are under contract at the local car wash so I use it frequently, two to four times a week.
I keep a stack of scratch-off lottery tickets in my center console (to hand out as tips). There is a tip barrel at the end of the wipe-down line for the guys that work there.
I always throw $2 and two lottery tickets in the barrel as I drive off the conveyor.

I appreciate anyone who is out there working.
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:02 PM   #45
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Well Gang,
A couple of things here. First, we traveled partially through Oregon a couple of years ago that took us from Klamath Falls to Medford via the 66 and I was carrying our Honda Goldwing on the back of our coach and towing our CRV at the time. Wow, HUGE mistake running that 66 with that kind of Amtrak load. No issues with a car or running the bike on that route. But, we survived. Scott
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Anyway, we ended up at Jacks RV park, alongside I-5 in Grants pass. If I recall, I gassed up our CRV and maybe the bike there, somewhere in that town and, didn't have anyone come out and do it for me. We later cruised up I-5 to Seven Feathers Casino and RV park. I fueled the coach, weighed it and the CRV while all hooked together and cruised on into the RV park. But, again, no one was there to do it for me.
Then again diesel is exempt of the law and Seven Feathers is Reservation land.

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Second, some of you have stated that at least ONE reason for OR to furnish attendents at gas stations is, there's some sort of "Danger" in the public handling fuel nozzles. And that it's supposedly safer for an attendant to do it???? Well, something's amiss here. What does OR think that makes their gas station operations, ANY different and or, any more dangerous, than ANY other state that does not have those kinds of rules and, folks get out and pump their own gas/diesel?
Because when is raining or snowing sideways I don't have to get out, get my tux and shiny shoes wet. Who knows the reason other that the pump your own question has been on the ballot at least twice that I can remember.

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Are there, or have there ever been, any more instances of any re-fueling mishaps, in the state of Oregon, that resulted in either a fire or death, that would lead Oregon to keep such rules in place? Again, any more than any other state that does not have such rules and operations? Or, is this as some of you say, just some form of EMPLOYMENT operation? I am all in favor of employment in any form.
I doubt if any safety can be proved. I would be a pump jockey again for the extra pocket change but my hips won't allow it. No windows to wash, no oil and under hood checks, no tire checks, no free glasses or what ever the promo of the week was-piece of cake.

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And, there are cases, such as my mother-in-law, that, while she's still adept and alert enough to drive safely, has a tougher time in handling a gas station nozzle so, she in almost all cases, get's gas at Costco so the attendant can assist her in fueling her car. I can surely see where handicapped folks with special vans, cars etc. that would have a hard time getting out of their specially constructed drivers seats, use some form of ramp or lift, to get out and put fuel in their vehicle that would take whatever time it takes for that operation, only to take a couple of minutes, to put fuel in, then go through all that operation, to get back into the drivers seat. Now, I can surely see the value of an attendant in that scenario.
Yes on the handicap access. I am 99% sure the law requires an attendant to pump for handicap at self-serve price.

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But, again, if there's any form of reasoning that suggests it would be more apt or more SAFE for an attendant to fuel vehicles, than the general public, then why don't the rest of the states follow suit?
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True. But at least we get to vote on it. I bet one can dig through your state laws and find more than one stupid or outdated law too.
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my dad and grandpa both had service stations. one in OR and one in WA in the 70's. when I was (I was around 10yr old) at the stations I always pumped the gas and cleaned windows. every once in a while they would tip me but it wasn't expected.
When one of my uncles came out here to OK to visit from OR. when he stopped at a couple of stations for gas he just sat there waiting on someone to pump his gas
here in OK full service stations charge a lot more for gas/fuel
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So hostile. I apologized, we shook hands, and were both laughing about it before I pulled out. He said it happens regularly (perhaps not to that degree, maybe some signage to warn the noobs in the area????)

For the love of Jesus, lighten up my dudes. Life is too fragile for such anger.
I accept your apology. And I apologize to you and the board for blowing up.
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Well Gang,
A couple of things here. First, we traveled partially through Oregon a couple of years ago that took us from Klamath Falls to Medford via the 66 and I was carrying our Honda Goldwing on the back of our coach and towing our CRV at the time. Wow, HUGE mistake running that 66 with that kind of Amtrak load. No issues with a car or running the bike on that route. But, we survived.

Anyway, we ended up at Jacks RV park, alongside I-5 in Grants pass. If I recall, I gassed up our CRV and maybe the bike there, somewhere in that town and, didn't have anyone come out and do it for me. We later cruised up I-5 to Seven Feathers Casino and RV park. I fueled the coach, weighed it and the CRV while all hooked together and cruised on into the RV park. But, again, no one was there to do it for me.

Second, some of you have stated that at least ONE reason for OR to furnish attendents at gas stations is, there's some sort of "Danger" in the public handling fuel nozzles. And that it's supposedly safer for an attendant to do it???? Well, something's amiss here. What does OR think that makes their gas station operations, ANY different and or, any more dangerous, than ANY other state that does not have those kinds of rules and, folks get out and pump their own gas/diesel?

Are there, or have there ever been, any more instances of any re-fueling mishaps, in the state of Oregon, that resulted in either a fire or death, that would lead Oregon to keep such rules in place? Again, any more than any other state that does not have such rules and operations? Or, is this as some of you say, just some form of EMPLOYMENT operation? I am all in favor of employment in any form.

And, there are cases, such as my mother-in-law, that, while she's still adept and alert enough to drive safely, has a tougher time in handling a gas station nozzle so, she in almost all cases, get's gas at Costco so the attendant can assist her in fueling her car. I can surely see where handicapped folks with special vans, cars etc. that would have a hard time getting out of their specially constructed drivers seats, use some form of ramp or lift, to get out and put fuel in their vehicle that would take whatever time it takes for that operation, only to take a couple of minutes, to put fuel in, then go through all that operation, to get back into the drivers seat. Now, I can surely see the value of an attendant in that scenario.

But, again, if there's any form of reasoning that suggests it would be more apt or more SAFE for an attendant to fuel vehicles, than the general public, then why don't the rest of the states follow suit?
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Been state law since 1949 in NJ and since 1951 in OR


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question for the travelers who have stopped for gas in Oregon. hand the attendant your credit card or walk back to pump and scan it yourself ?
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Two years ago, on our first extended trip, we were in Oregon. Never been there before. Pulled into a Flying Hook somewhere, and he was standing there with the hose in his hand waiting for me. I had no idea why.

Told him to get the [mod edit] away from my Coach and get out of my face (sorry, ex LEO, nobody gets that close).....anyway, as I said, never been there, had no idea.

He did say something about being required to do it for me, I'm afraid I told him to step away or I was going to take him down.

Haven't been back to Oregon since. I think my picture is up on the walls everywhere.

What would have been wrong with just being civil? Polite? Something like this:


"Hi, good morning, what are you doing?"


"You mean you have to pump my gas for me?"


"Is that a station policy or the law?"


Your response as you relate it is uncalled for needlessly confrontational to say nothing of rude and bordering on the violent. A quick search on your phone would have revealed the policy.


In my opinion there is no excuse for behaviour like this. Especially to some poor schmuck just trying to do his job...and do it well and quickly so not to inconvenience you.


If I had been the station manager and you treated my employee that way the police would have been called and you escorted away.



What's needed here is some humility and civility.

After I posted this I saw that the poster I quoted apologized. It was due. And while the apology is welcome I still cannot understand this kind of reaction in the first place and I stand by my response. But thank you for the apology.
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question for the travelers who have stopped for gas in Oregon. hand the attendant your credit card or walk back to pump and scan it yourself ?
I hand the card to the attendant and say fill it up He/She walks to the pump (3' away) swipes the card and hands it back to me. It's NEVER out of my sight or in their sole possession.n This is standard procedure ..... I'm sure if your paranoid they will let you swipe/insert it. I assume your concerned about the attendant stealing your cc numbers? Ever buy food at a restaurant with a cc and have the waiter disappear? much more dangerous IMO. In Europe they bring the reader to the table and you watch them swipe it ... much safer.
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…. just wondering why this whole thing is such a big deal. Personally, it's nice to pull in and sit back and relax for a change. it's the way things are done in Oregon. No big deal.
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Diesel so I swipe and I pump.


Restaurant .....card does NOT 'walk away'
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Diesel so I swipe and I pump.


Restaurant .....card does NOT 'walk away'
Off topic i know but Just curious , do you go to the server station in the back with them ? I've always wondered what to do when there's no "pay" counter like in most nicer restaurants.
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Off topic i know but Just curious , do you go to the server station in the back with them ? I've always wondered what to do when there's no "pay" counter like in most nicer restaurants.

They can bring card machine to table, I pay at checkout or yes I go with them to machine and complete the transaction
And I let them know WHY.
If 'they' have an issue...time for Manager.





Card walked away 1 time and Bank closed account....suspicious activity.
Had to get new cards

Got lucky ....no real harm other then inconvenience
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Off topic i know but Just curious , do you go to the server station in the back with them ? I've always wondered what to do when there's no "pay" counter like in most nicer restaurants.

Actually this is where a lot of CC fraud is perpetrated. Businesses in Europe have for years brought a handheld CC POS to the table. During my 4 Months in Europe last year NO ONE took my credit card to run.
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