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10-01-2017, 10:54 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Newmar Owners Club
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Location: out west
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You've done it - don't do it - be safe
I have done this myself and should know better if you have rethink your setup.
This is what I witnessed today. A gentleman was pulling in behind his new MoHo to hook up his toad. He had a 12 year old boy guiding him at the back of the MoHo easing him in to position. The young boy signals to stop. Grandpa gets out of his Jeep and walks to the front of the toad. Unexpectedly the Jeep starts to roll forward. Grandpa races to the Jeep jumps in and, in his haste, accidently hits the gas not the brake! The Jeep races forward pinning the boy between the Jeep and MoHo. Grandpa panics and thinking his foot is on the brake continues to gun the Jeep into the back of the MoHo. The Jeep is now high centered on the hitch and locked in place unmovable with the young boy screaming in pain. No way to disconnect the Jeep and motorhome at this point. Moving the MoHo forward only drags the Jeep with it. It took the fire department and their jaws of life to lift and remove the Jeep from the MoHo.
The paramedics and police that responded where fantastic. One of the officers stayed with the boy and held his hand and offered him encouragement and support throughout his ordeal. He kept the boy calm and reassured he was going to be OK.
The young boy was a real trooper, tuff young man. He was scared and hurting but in the end I think he is going to be OK. Obviously there was some real damage to one of his legs but not life threatening and hopefully not life altering. However, Grandpa will never be the same I am sure of that.
My point in telling this story is to remind all of us not to stand between the coach and toad ever unless the brakes in both vehicles are set and secured. This was an unintentional mistake today and hopefully this young boy will recover completely, however it could have been a much greater tragedy don't let it happen to you.
Steve
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10-01-2017, 11:41 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
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My wife was helping me line up the hitch on the trailer once and I had to stop and ask her not to get between me and the trailer. Hope the boy recovers, thanks for sharing.
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10-01-2017, 11:43 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Freightliner Owners Club
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Wow, that is terrible. Sure pray the boy will recover..... grandpa too.
I chewed out a friend one time for something similar. While guiding me back to a trailer hitch, he decided to move from where I told him to to stand. He stepped behind the tow vehicle, checking to see if the ball lined up with the hitch. I told him, "if my foot slipped off the brake, you'd never get out in time".
Always have your spotter stay off to the side but still in your sight.
Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention, it's a sad tragedy.
W.D.
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10-01-2017, 11:57 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: SW Louisiana
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The same sort of caution should always be used when guiding any vehicle, this includes pulling a motorhome into a garage, backing into an rv site, etc. Never stand directly in the path of travel.
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10-02-2017, 09:21 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
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Good advice! Hope the boy is OK!
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10-02-2017, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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That is tragic and I hope for a good recovery for the young man.
Another thing to think about is when unhooking the toad (that is usually in neutral) put your parking brake on or chock the wheels. I have seen a couple times where someone has unhooked the towbar and the toad will start to roll away.
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10-02-2017, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Prayers for the young fellow for a complete recovery.
Friend was loading his car on a trailer. Had the wife stand on the hitch to guide him on. He had not locked the ball so as he drove on the trailer flipped up and threw his wife in the air. She landed on the hitch and broke several ribs. He should have known better as he had worked for years in the construction industry with a backhoe.
We have a rule when we are moving anything. If I cannot see you I am stopping. I also stop several times to check for myself what is happening and where I am positioned. Takes a bit of time but is the greatest aid to preventing a lifetime of problems.
Several things to consider:
1) Always move slowly.
2) Spotters stand to the side away from the path of travel.
3) If you cannot see your spotter - STOP.
4) Get out often to check your position and for any obstacles. Only you will know where you want to be and can verify it.
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10-02-2017, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member
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Grandpa needs to be re-certified to operate a motor vehicle.
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10-02-2017, 10:53 AM
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I don't recall how I learned to never use a human being for helping you "hitch up". It must've been back when I was growing up,.....on the farm.
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10-02-2017, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member
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Interesting food for thought--I routinely stand between toad and RV while DW drives toad into proper alignment. Need to rethink the process but not sure how to get the alignment right without being in position to observe -- guess you could make multiple trips in and out with DW's foot on brake in between??????
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10-02-2017, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
We have a rule when we are moving anything. If I cannot see you I am stopping. I also stop several times to check for myself what is happening and where I am positioned. Takes a bit of time but is the greatest aid to preventing a lifetime of problems.
Several things to consider:
1) Always move slowly.
2) Spotters stand to the side away from the path of travel.
3) If you cannot see your spotter - STOP.
4) Get out often to check your position and for any obstacles. Only you will know where you want to be and can verify it.
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Right on the money Gordon. I learned these things from growing up on a farm. I seldom need people, but rather fixed points of visual reference. But if a situation does require two sets of eyes......I follow your list above.
W.D.
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2014 Itasca Ellipse 42QD, Freightliner Maxum, 450HP Cummins ISL, 3000 Allison, Roadmaster Nighthawk II, 2011 Lincoln MKX.
2012 Newmar Canyon Star (first coach) FMCA F428511.
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10-02-2017, 11:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA
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WHAT the H__L where you thinking?
pulling into a difficult spot with a steep slope on both sides of the entrance 5th tilted WAY TO FAR FOR SAFETY so my wife (without me seeing - on the blind side) decided it was a good idea "hold up the side" of our 11000lb 5th .
When I found out what she had done ...... we a (overdue) safety chat and to NEVER do something as stupid as that again.
I'm to old to start over ......
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10-02-2017, 11:51 AM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St. Augustine, FL
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I use to have DW drive the Jeep up to the back of the MH as I guided her from the side. once in place, I stepped in and hooked up one arm and told her to turn off the Jeep. This resulted in her flooring the gas peddle with the only thing keeping me from being crushed being the one connected arm! I jumped back as the arm and MH got jacked up and again asked her to turn it off... same result!! This was when I decided her Alzheimers had progressed to the point she could no longer drive. Now, I pull it up, jump out and check and repeat till I get it in place.
David
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10-02-2017, 12:36 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Scout
Interesting food for thought--I routinely stand between toad and RV while DW drives toad into proper alignment. Need to rethink the process but not sure how to get the alignment right without being in position to observe -- guess you could make multiple trips in and out with DW's foot on brake in between??????
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Let's hope you aren't overinsured. Would hate to see you dw mistake the gas pedal for the brake.
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