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07-12-2022, 09:02 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
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Ready to buy, but lots to learn
Good morning,
I’m sitting in camp enjoying the PWN breeze thinking about next steps.
We’ve been pulling a large toy hauler for years and I’m frankly sick of it. My wife and I have been drooling over our friends’ diesel pushers for far too long.
Interested in a low mile, well cared for coach measuring 32-36’. Must be diesel and preferably a higher HP/torque unit to accommodate pulling a cargo trailer through the mountain west. Pre-def would be nice. Mid 2000s is an age and price point that makes sense as we transition to a real RV.
We know there is no perfect set up and there will likely be times I wish I had the infuriating toy hauler but for now our minds are made up.
I have lots to learn and am open to advice especially if makes, models, years, etc to avoid.
Thank You,
Law
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07-12-2022, 09:25 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
Posts: 55,603
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined us!
Monaco made some really high-quality MH's in the early 2000's, especially the Windsor, Dynasty, and Signature! Have fun and keep her between the ditches!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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07-12-2022, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: AZ.
Posts: 569
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diesel
your probably going to have to look more at 36ft size to get anything over 300 hp and the 3000 trans to get a 10k tow capacity. maybe a Winny journey 36G with a 350 Cat. My neighbor just bought one to tow a 7200 lb box trailer.
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07-12-2022, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: NY State
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DPs in that size range can be hard to find. We tried for 2 years and wound up with our 40' Tiffin.
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1976 Southwind 28', '96 Winnie 34WK,
2006 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40QDP
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07-12-2022, 09:39 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Where we park it!
Posts: 13,145
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Welcome to the forum.
You are joining a good group of friends here with good information to share. Read the various threads here and ask questions as they come up or add information if you can.
Good luck on the search and enjoy the adventure!
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2018 Tiffin Allegro RED 37PA
2020 JEEP Trailhawk
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07-13-2022, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,996
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Welcome aboard!
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07-13-2022, 09:34 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsrtrider
your probably going to have to look more at 36ft size to get anything over 300 hp and the 3000 trans to get a 10k tow capacity. maybe a Winny journey 36G with a 350 Cat. My neighbor just bought one to tow a 7200 lb box trailer.
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What a coincidence. The very model I’m lusting over this week. My wife and I continue to experience all the annoyances of our toy hauler while parked next to our friend’s journey.
Solidifying our decision…
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07-13-2022, 09:34 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 6
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Thank you for the warm welcome.
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07-13-2022, 09:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 1,828
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawdot74
What a coincidence. The very model I’m lusting over this week. My wife and I continue to experience all the annoyances of our toy hauler while parked next to our friend’s journey.
Solidifying our decision…
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I'm curious... What is it about a toyhauler that you do not like?
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07-13-2022, 09:17 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 77Travco
I'm curious... What is it about a toyhauler that you do not like?
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Our current setup is a result of efforts to get three side-by-sides to the sand dunes. I load one on a DRW F350 and two in a 28’ bumper pull toy hauler. As a result we have no dedicated bedroom and all living space doubles as garage. Storage is limited in this scenario so gear is loaded around and in the two UTVs as well as under the unit on the truck. Mom, dad and kids all share one “room” with only a small bathroom for privacy.
Admittedly, some toy haulers have bedrooms and better storage options.
We will have to limit ourselves to two UTVs when we switch to a diesel pusher or super-C pulling our cargo trailer. Stacker isn’t in the cards yet.
A few large fifth wheel trailers can haul two units and provide dedicated bedroom space but not without combining garage with living space.
Ultimately, we ‘think’ we want dedicated garage and living space. We realize we give up some flexibility by not having a tow rig to drive from camp. No perfect solution…
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07-14-2022, 06:29 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 1,828
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawdot74
Our current setup is a result of efforts to get three side-by-sides to the sand dunes. I load one on a DRW F350 and two in a 28’ bumper pull toy hauler. As a result we have no dedicated bedroom and all living space doubles as garage. Storage is limited in this scenario so gear is loaded around and in the two UTVs as well as under the unit on the truck. Mom, dad and kids all share one “room” with only a small bathroom for privacy.
Admittedly, some toy haulers have bedrooms and better storage options.
We will have to limit ourselves to two UTVs when we switch to a diesel pusher or super-C pulling our cargo trailer. Stacker isn’t in the cards yet.
A few large fifth wheel trailers can haul two units and provide dedicated bedroom space but not without combining garage with living space.
Ultimately, we ‘think’ we want dedicated garage and living space. We realize we give up some flexibility by not having a tow rig to drive from camp. No perfect solution…
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My wife and I were in the exact same situation as you. We prefer class A motorhomes and our dream was to eventually move to a class A toyhauler. In the meantime, we bought a bumper pull toy hauler because we like to bring our motorcycles along.
That's when we discovered that we didn't actually like having the bikes in the RV with us. They take up space and we don't always carry them.
We ended up with a shorter class A and cargo trailer and couldn't be happier. The great thing about a class A coach is that you can pull a trailer, toad or nothing at all. I am planning to hang a lightweight motorcycle on the rear as another option.
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2018 F150 Lariat 502A 4X4 Toad & Tow Vehicle
2023 Rockwood GeoPro 20BHS
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10-01-2022, 03:42 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 6
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I’ve admittedly not been searching much lately as I have cash tied up at the moment.
The alerts I set have been quiet. Expanding my search to early DEF coaches improves results.
One can find a few 2011 Journey 34s for a ~$110k. I need to read about DEF problems or lack there of….
I also need to read about class A vs super C as I think I’d be more comfortable driving a C.
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