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12-15-2011, 09:59 PM
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#141
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SW Florida
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Originally Posted by flounda42
The fact that the forum continues to let this topic ride after the decision has been made shows me they do believe in freedom of speech, problem is, there are a lot of good points being made from both sides. For instance, I think any rv'er with minimal road experience has realized the necessity for a self defence "plan", at the very least. Lots of beautiful rv's out there, much of them cost more than houses do. On the road with your family and pets, or even the lone rangers, how long will it take for help to arrive if your not sure how to describe your exact location? Sorry to those of you who dont want to think about it, but , it is a reality for rv'ers everywhere. Defending the rv sounds like a relevant topic to the modern day family.
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You are absolutely right! Who is going to defend you in the middle of the night within a few minutes?
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Originally Posted by stepside454
If your speaking of what I think your speaking of... Don't say it... I would never & I don't think anyone should use that to protect your rv, that'll get you put in jail real fast.
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Do you live in the "real" world Stepside or your own little world? Don't you see the TV reports and news about all the people getting killed everyday? If you are not prepared to defend yourself then you will become a victim and a statistic. You travel around in a high dollar RV with money in your pocket. You are a likely target for most thieves.
They just found 10 dead bodies on Long Island today.... Along with 3 here in Ft. Myers Fl... and Lord knows how many more in the USA. Please wake up before it's too late... or maybe you will get lucky and one of us "undesirables" will be there to protect you and your family....
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12-15-2011, 11:00 PM
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#142
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Marquette, Michigan "Da UP" & Lehigh Acres Florida
Posts: 21,827
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This is just a sample of how opinionated this subject is and how fast and easy things start to get off topic in this case Community Rules Change/Politics.
This post is here to let members share their opinions on the subject matter and a fairly wide range of opinions is being allowed.
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12-16-2011, 01:00 AM
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#143
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Quartz Hill, California
Posts: 445
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Yes, I am a gun owner. I would use one if necessary to STAY ALIVE.
I was interested in information about having a gun while out in my RV. I am fulltiming it, and wanted to know the laws, and what other RVers do with their guns, etc.
I found, and read threads about the subject here on this site. I learned alot of valuable info. Being informed on EVERY subject that has ANYTHING related to RVing is my goal, as the RV is my home.
I understand that there are subjects that some people don't want to hear about. That is the way of life. I don't have a pet, won't have a pet, and don't care to read about pets, but the subject comes up frequently in various non-related threads. I just skip over that stuff to get to the info I want.
But then again, I am a Liberal, and I define that as a person who is more tolerant and more open-minded than a conservative person. And in saying that, I don't really care one way or the other what 'opinions' people have on a subject. I sift thru the info for the truth and facts that I need to help make my life easier and better.
So...tires, heaters, water pumps, Soc Sec, guns, congress, laws.....its all relevent to me if it has anything to do with me and my RV lifestyle.
Yes, some people go off the deep end and feel a need to express their 'opinions'. It happens on every forum, and in any lengthy conversation. Believe me, I know from listening to some of my customers carry on.
Guns, politics, religion......no big deal !!! Maybe someone will be camping for awhile in some place and ask if anyone knows about a friendly church that a non-resident, transient RVer could be received with open arms.
Or... where one could find a nearby shooting range, or a whatever.....who cares.
LIVE & LET LIVE....that's my motto.
And, as Thumper (the bunny) said in "Bambi"...."If you can't say somethin' nice....then don't say nothin' at all".
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12-16-2011, 06:48 AM
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#144
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Billieg, yes I'm a gum owner & ccw holder who carrys everyday. I'd never use my firearm to protect stuff. I would use it to protect human life. Break into my rv & Rob me, as long as nobody is inside. That's what insurance is for
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12-16-2011, 07:34 AM
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#145
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Long Island N.Y.
Posts: 357
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Thank you. Much appreciated.
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12-17-2011, 07:43 AM
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#146
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Coastal Campers
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Marathon, Florida
Posts: 2,909
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Is it me or is the discussion about not having gun discussions becoming one?
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2004 Winnebago Vectra 40KD
Shep dog, R.I.P. Kenzie dog Toad 2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Wheeler
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12-17-2011, 07:49 AM
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#147
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Community Administrator
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 53,561
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Originally Posted by HD4Mark
Is it me or is the discussion about not having gun discussions becoming one?
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Very interesting.
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12-17-2011, 07:54 AM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 25,898
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You are correct, so we need get back on topic.
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Originally Posted by HD4Mark
Is it me or is the discussion about not having gun discussions becoming one?
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12-17-2011, 07:57 AM
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#149
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 152
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Alway's remember treat people the way you want to be treated,
and this will help everyone. and Thanks to those who work and keep this site going. Have a Great Day
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12-17-2011, 08:25 AM
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#150
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Senior Dude
Triple E Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Somewhere, BC.
Posts: 5,613
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
This is just a sample of how opinionated this subject is and how fast and easy things start to get off topic in this case Community Rules Change/Politics.
This post is here to let members share their opinions on the subject matter and a fairly wide range of opinions is being allowed.
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As moderators, I believe you have a very tough job, but someone has to make a decision in the interests of the greater majority!
I personally feel the moderators do a really good job. I follow this site to learn about a lifestyle and as a forum to make me better at something I enjoy as well as a tool to solve problems.
I realize there are all different types of people in this world, but it bugs me when people become extremely "Left Wing" when it comes to any topic. Critizing and preaching is not what I personally come to this site for.
My hat goes off to the Moderators. Thank you for what you do!
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12-17-2011, 11:21 AM
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#151
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Registered User
Winnebago Owners Club Nor'easters Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 552
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Originally Posted by Route 66
You are correct, so we need get back on topic.
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I was under the impression that we were not allowed to discuss this topic according to the Community Rules.
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12-17-2011, 01:38 PM
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#152
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
Join Date: Mar 2002
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The topic is the recent change in our Community Rules. Discussion of that is allowed.
What is not are the topics listed in those Community Rules, unless as noted.
Lori-
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12-17-2011, 02:02 PM
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#153
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Registered User
Winnebago Owners Club Nor'easters Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by NLOVNIT
The topic is the recent change in our Community Rules. Discussion of that is allowed.
What is not are the topics listed in those Community Rules, unless as noted.
Lori-
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12-17-2011, 05:35 PM
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#154
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Mid Atlantic Campers Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Locust Grove, Virginia
Posts: 345
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- General discussions of politics, general government policies, weaponry, gun rights and religion are not allowed in ANY areas of iRV2. Discussions about specific or pending legislation or regulations that directly pertain to RVing are acceptable but will be closed or removed if they become disruptive.
Ok, . . I understand the, gun rights, religion, and politics are out, part. Those subjects are real fire starters. These for the most part are not a legal or life threatening issues. Gun ownership, handling issues, transport issues, on the other hand are a little different. GUNS, what a horrible four letter word. Sorry couldn't help myself. Many in our group have questions about guns, weaponry, and I would rather see them get somewhat straight honest answers here, than just assume and get in trouble. When I first joined this forum, I had many questions about the do's and dont's of weapons in my RV and found an abundance of good advice here. Most of it was 'check the law and follow it'. Now I'm afraid all questions on the subject of guns are taboo. I agree, keep it RV related, and watch opinions but, let us approach the subject until it gets out of hand.
I mean really, are we not all adults here? (I have a 20 something son-in-law who I talked to about this today, and he said 'oh all the forums are like that') From reading this forum for a while, generally speaking, we are on average a little more than 20 something? I am more than three times twenty something. . . . .So then, do we, as a group, loose all our maturity and common sense, when we get on a forum like this? I really hope not.
I understand the need to moderate, and one of the reasons I love this site is because it is kept 'clean' and I don't have to weed through a bunch of foul language to find the information I need. But on the other hand, I would like to think I have the ability to filter the information I read as to my needs. If I don't agree I can just move on. BUT, every now and then I do want to hear some one else's OPINION! That does not mean I will get in an argument, but if I do isn't that what the triangle symbol with an exclamation point in it is for? If I'm getting flamed or the one doing the flaming, for whatever reason can't we just use this link to help stifle the situation. Our Moderators do a wonderful job with this site and I feel this has only made their job much harder. If they didn't have enough to watch out for, now they have even more.
What happens when we use this Triangle link? Can't the Moderators just eliminate a problem with a couple of clicks? Why can't we as members be somewhat more self policing and use this little triangle, if needed? Instead of outright saying NO to a subject give us some guidelines to use the triangle and report what we think is out of line. This would make the Moderators job easier, because the 'stuff' would be highlighted, and in effect thrown at them, and the Moderators will not have to fish throughout the threads for some of us deviants breaking the rules.
If I am out of line please forgive me.
Ok I've worn out my welcome now so I'll take my toys and go home.
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