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Old 01-26-2023, 04:42 AM   #1
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thread search and advanced search on IRV2.com not working properly

it appears Boolean characters and multi word search is turned on on the forums, can anyone confirm? the advanced search which is very important for a forum like this appears to be extremely lacking. i am finding it impossible to use multiple words to narrow down my searches here to find helpful topics.
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Tell us how youíre going about your searches. Hereís what I use and it works pretty good.

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Tell us how youíre going about your searches. Hereís what I use and it works pretty good.

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see attached, ill try the google bar next but usually the results from that are not as clean and easily viewed then the post view in vbulletin
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ok ive confirmed the google search bar sucks lol. its search functions are limited compared to the vbulletin functions and it searches text strings anywhere within crawled pages unlike the vbulletin search function. see attached its literally searching user join dates, signatures, etc and returning useless posts and threads.

I believe the Site admin probably has advanced searching or boolean searching capability turned off on purpose?
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I put in 2009 American Eagle Headlights and got this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=2009...earch=irv2.com
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I put in 2009 American Eagle Headlights and got this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=2009...earch=irv2.com
yup same here. those results do not include all three words, and certainly not per post. its apparent the site software is extremely limited with its thread and post search capability. 100% of those returned results are bogus and not useful, none of them contain a single posting with "2009", "eagle", "headlights" in it. the google search bar is not capable of that kind of search.
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I put in 2009 American Eagle Headlights and got this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=2009...earch=irv2.com
are you capable of doing a search with all three words contained in it? ill show you a link of another vbulletin with proper search function working. for some reason this site might purposely have it turned off or not configured
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i know vbulletin is capable of it but down in the bottom it does show the latest site software is a beta version

https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=253432
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That’s all it found. There may not have been more discussions here. Anyway it’s what we’re working with. It’s not great but most aren’t especially when members do not label their threads correctly. We retitle those we see to assist for future searches.

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That’s all it found. There may not have been more discussions here. Anyway it’s what we’re working with. It’s not great but most aren’t especially when members do not label their threads correctly. We retitle those we see to assist for future searches.

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We’re moving to another platform in the near future. Hopefully that will be better in a lot of respects.
its indexing and searching thread body text too not just titles. the vbulletin search built in the platform should be able to work just like this other vbulletin site see attached :-)

sorry i dont want to come off nagging. im genuinely wanting to help or at least help myself better search your forums for stuff pertinent to me lol.

this same search on IRV2 finds all threads with either "2009", "eagle", or "headlights" so in reality it finds thousands of posts and none of them actually pertinent to the search at hand.

I think this is literally just a search tool thats turned off in the backend admin panel of vbulletin. just curious if this is a known and purposeful limitation placed on the forum by administration? is this same limitation placed on paid contributors or is it turned off for contributing members? thanks!
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https://forum.vbulletin.com/forum/vb...ps#post2367653

this describes how to turn on boolean search functions for user groups. it would appear this is probably set to off for user group im in (junior member), not sure if this gets set to "On" for paid members maybe?

but man the search on this board is really horrendous. one of the worst ive used on any forum and im on a bunch! lol
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Our supporter memberships do not receive anything different. If we had it , everyone would be able to use it. It’s not what the supporter membership is about. I’ll leave it here as I’ve forwarded this to our techs.
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Our supporter memberships do not receive anything different. If we had it , everyone would be able to use it. Itís not what the supporter membership is about. Iíll leave it here as Iíve forwarded this to our techs.
ok no worries and i appreciate you responding to me this morning! thanks!
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are you capable of doing a search with all three words contained in it? ill show you a link of another vbulletin with proper search function working. for some reason this site might purposely have it turned off or not configured
You can do an exact phrase search with all three words by enclosing all in quotes, ie "2009 American Eagle". Enclosing each individual word means it searches for all terms anywhere in the post, not the full phrase. Yes the Google search does look at both titles and body text since it's a limited feature and no way to specify title only. Using the Advanced Search feature that Cliff noted is more accurate and lets you specify title only. Sometimes putting too many words in the search limits the results too much.
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