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12-31-2012, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by HeapBigEngin
Re alternative refer, would sure appreciate some additional info from those that have replaced their Norcolds. Don't need excessive detail...."Reader's Digest" format would be great. Curious about refers available, approximate unit cost and whether you did the install or had it done. Any info would be greatly appreciated....Thanks!
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I put in a 2-door 'counter depth' Frigidaire for $1500. Lots of info from others with pictures of their install, so I won't. The Norcold did just fine until Mesa, AZ summer heat killed it this year! (The first one died 3 years ago, replaced under warranty.) Took out the old one, and did the new install myself. I had the new one brought in sideways thru the large escape window by 3 guys after removing the doors. I had to widen the space to 36", and make a new lower floor. Some Samsung model fits the Norcold space. Want more info from me, give a PM.
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12-31-2012, 09:49 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
When we bought the Class A earlier this year, the very first thing I did, before sleeping in it even one night, was to replace the cooling unit with one of the Amish-made units! Our lives are worth FAR more than what that cost me!
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Same here! Just bought a new DP...gonna have to do the same again.
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12-31-2012, 09:52 PM
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You would think by now that there would be a class action suit against Norcold. All these fires and they have to know about the problems. If I had a Norcold it would be gone.
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12-31-2012, 09:57 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Glad no one was hurt. What brand/model of MH was it? Was Norcold in a slide?
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12-31-2012, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Both Norcold and Dometic have had problems. I replaced our cooling unit with one of the Amish units last year.
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01-01-2013, 02:03 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Originally Posted by palehorse89
I am making a guess here: I would say that is was running on electric, why do I think that, When plugged into shore power paying a nightly,weekly,monthly fee I would think everyone would run on electric side. Articles state more fires when running on electric due to my thought. If it was running on propane and a leak happened the end result would be the same.
My norcold runs all summer from april till november on #2 setting (1-5) I never defrosted it once this summer and had hard ice cream. I am lucky mine is not on the recall list.
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i have read on this forum and elsewhere that if you have the auto mode selected and the fridge detects a cooling problem, it will switch to the propane mode possibly causing a fire.
i leave my n822 in ac mode or in propane mode, never in auto.
my unit supposedly in not the subject of a recall yet. that doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
there is a class action law suit in progress.
Norcold Recall
Attorneys Reporting Norcold Class Action Suit | RV Business
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01-01-2013, 07:30 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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[QUOTE=DAN L;1416269]i have read on this forum and elsewhere that if you have the auto mode selected and the fridge detects a cooling problem, it will switch to the propane mode possibly causing a fire.
i leave my n822 in ac mode or in propane mode, never in auto.
my unit supposedly in not the subject of a recall yet. that doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
there is a class action law suit in progress.
Do you remember where you read that about problems and switching to propane? I never heard of that. Maybe someone on here can tell us if that is so. If you get a leak the heating elements (red hot) or the flame from the propane burner will end up in the same result......Fire. I would never run my fridge on manual as sure enough I would forget to switch it after unhooking from shore power and would end up with a mess for sure.
Here is what I found on this:
LIMP MODE OF OPERATION
This control system contains a feature where it will
continue to operate the cooling system in the event of a
failure of a major operating component. Two different
modes of operation can occur in this category.
If for some reason the display module becomes non
functional, the control system will revert to full automatic
operation selecting the best energy source available
with AC, GAS priority. The temperature of the refrigerator
will be maintained at the MID position within normal
temperature tolerances. The power module will continually
attempt to reestablish operation of the display module.
The second limp mode of operation will execute when a
failure of the temperature sensing device or associated
electronic circuitry occurs. If this should occur, the control
system will operate on the energy source selected
via the control panel. The cooling unit will run continuously
on the selected energy source. The refrigerator
will continue to operate in this mode indefinitely or until
a new sensor is installed and the system is reset.
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01-01-2013, 07:54 AM
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Models?
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Originally Posted by Magic Bus
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I've read what articles I've found on here, but haven't found one that specifically lists the "three models" of Norcold units. I recently bought a '92 Holiday Rambler class A with a few-years-old Norcold 3-way fridge with fan mods to aid in cooling, which seems to cool wonderfully. One of the reasons I purchased it was because so many of the key components had been upgraded over the past 3-6 years.
Do we know what Norcold models are seemingly the culprits?
I'm so thankful your friends are okay. Prayers going up for their struggles over the next weeks as they work through this.
LDDP
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01-01-2013, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LgDietDrPppr
I've read what articles I've found on here, but haven't found one that specifically lists the "three models" of Norcold units. I recently bought a '92 Holiday Rambler class A with a few-years-old Norcold 3-way fridge with fan mods to aid in cooling, which seems to cool wonderfully. One of the reasons I purchased it was because so many of the key components had been upgraded over the past 3-6 years.
Do we know what Norcold models are seemingly the culprits?
I'm so thankful your friends are okay. Prayers going up for their struggles over the next weeks as they work through this.
LDDP
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Find your serial # or model # and look up here Norcold Recall
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01-01-2013, 08:08 AM
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Like I told my wife, when you hear a smoke alarm in a motor home, you get out fast, then look back to see what's going on...
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01-01-2013, 08:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LgDietDrPppr
Do we know what Norcold models are seemingly the culprits?
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Another article below. Lawyers, being who they are, would never pigeonhole themselves to a specific "model" when they can target a "brand".
To much work to be exacting, much easier to load buckshot and see who/what you hit ($).
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...os-011076.html
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01-01-2013, 11:16 PM
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Thanks, Hugh and Palehorse....I'll look mine up now. My budget won't allow much change of units now, but I will be interested in the Amish unit or even a residential type as soon as I can swing it.
I googled the Amish built ones, not sure I found a good resource for purchase. Anyone have a reliable vendor contact or website?
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01-02-2013, 12:12 AM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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When ours shut off due to the sensor detecting the high temp it was on elec. I manually switched over to gas and it ran a couple more hours then quit completely. That's when I installed the Amish cooling unit.
Last month I found the refer was running on gas and wouldn't run on elec. I pulled the heating element and found it was broken in half, right at the bend. This blew the 5 amp fuse in the control box also. Have a new one to go in but just haven't gotten to it since the wife is so sick.
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01-02-2013, 01:11 AM
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#42
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Registered User
Winnebago Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
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Location: Cherry Creek, BC Canada
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My Norcold unit has no sticker telling me the model serial etc. Is there another way of detecting these numbers because I am getting leery of using the fridge as Denise and I do a lot of dry docking? TIA
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