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11-15-2013, 07:57 AM
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RV Mutant #14
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FACEBOOK may start tracking your cursor
Don't believe it, search on the word "cursor tracking" without the quotes.
Or, Cursor Tracking
Nothing is private on the Internet.
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11-15-2013, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne M
Don't believe it, search on the word "cursor tracking" without the quotes.
Or, Cursor Tracking
Nothing is private on the Internet.
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Would you rather have Facebook or the NSA track you?
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11-15-2013, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubwheat
Would you rather have Facebook or the NSA track you?
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Not totally sure they aren't one and the same.
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11-15-2013, 08:06 AM
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Of course I believe it. But my reaction is, So what? Lots of sites have been (and are) doing this for many moons.
GL Arnold
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11-15-2013, 08:37 AM
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In the Pensacola News Journal this past week, a student "tweeted" she would pay someone to attack her high school. The police investigated her actions based on information from an "undisclosed agency"... Threat was found not to be serious.... Was surprised they disclosed the undisclosed agency part... Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out there.
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11-15-2013, 09:05 AM
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RV Mutant #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubwheat
Would you rather have Facebook or the NSA track you?
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Yes I would rather have the NSA tracking me than Facebook. At least NSA has some relevance of better security (except for turncoats). I'm sure facebook will have turncoats also, so let us not go there. Besides, i spent 23+ years in Signal Intelligence and pretty much know what they can and cannot do. Start by looking up "ECHELON" (started around 1988) on the Internet. So for how long has tracking been going on?
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Originally Posted by Hooligan
In the Pensacola News Journal this past week, a student "tweeted" she would pay someone to attack her high school. The police investigated her actions based on information from an "undisclosed agency"... Threat was found not to be serious.... Was surprised they disclosed the undisclosed agency part... Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out there.
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Ever since 9/11 it is common knowledge that agencies are scanning for key words regarding terrorism. There is absolutely no way to discern from a terrorist email and a innocuous email. I have absolutely nothing to hide from anyone so if they want to monitor my email, so be it. Now also consider that it is impossible for any agency to monitor every little item that goes out over the internet, so emails to Mom on how she is doing is not going to raise a flag or even be noticed. Please also consider how many threats have been stopped by monitoring actions.
So you say she "tweeted", well heck isn't that open to a vast majority of tweety users? What is not to say that someone saw the post, reported it to agency a, b or c. and that agency then became the source of the information protecting the individual that reported it. It was probably her best friend that knew, or at least thought, she was not kidding. Isn't it better to ba safe than to say we are sorry after a fact that was know to possibly exist.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, I posted the information just as that "INFORMATION'" take it as you wish. I could care less what Government agency monitors my communications. There are many, many users out there that do not know the ins-and-outs of the Internet and I was just posting for informational purposes.
Happy trails.
Edited: Oh heck! Here is a link on ECHELON
Be sure to read the statement from the Federation of American Scientists on what is searched, you may find it interesting.
Sometimes I think we give away to many of our National secrets.
And check this for a List Of Government Survellance Projects
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11-15-2013, 09:59 AM
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Hey, you participate in Facebook, you have no secrets to hide anyway.
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11-15-2013, 10:16 AM
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RV Mutant #14
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Ha ha! I don't participate in Facebook. Try finding anything other than I exist. I use my wife's account if I need to loo at family items.
On another note, here are the Golbal Surveillance Disclosurers
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Lexi - Goldendoodle
2015 Winnebago Tour 42QD - 2020 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve
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11-15-2013, 10:38 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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This site has some tracking also.... but mostly for advertising.
I use ZoneAlarm and today it has blocked the following:
Facebook Connect
Google Adsense
DoubleClick
Quantcast
And I have only looked at 4-5 threads
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11-15-2013, 11:27 AM
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I avoid Farcebook , Tweeter and all other 'social networking' sites like the plague. I have zero use for them. That said, I am a member of many varied informational forum sites, and have always operated under the realization that NOTHING in any form of media is secure. Snail mail, e-mail, forums, social sites, telephone - ALL are being monitored. This latest misadministration is simply taking this idea to new lows. Saying anything remotely criminal or incriminating is simply stupid these days. That's why LEO love the social sites. "Kids say the darndest things!", as Mr. Linkletter used to quip. And incriminating photos are just gravy on the goose.
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11-15-2013, 01:14 PM
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Facebook is a great way to keep up with family and distant friends. You just don't post something that you don't want the world to see! Some folks on the social sites are just plain stupid
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Originally Posted by LeeRevell
I avoid Farcebook , Tweeter and all other 'social networking' sites like the plague. I have zero use for them. That said, I am a member of many varied informational forum sites, and have always operated under the realization that NOTHING in any form of media is secure. Snail mail, e-mail, forums, social sites, telephone - ALL are being monitored. This latest misadministration is simply taking this idea to new lows. Saying anything remotely criminal or incriminating is simply stupid these days. That's why LEO love the social sites. "Kids say the darndest things!", as Mr. Linkletter used to quip. And incriminating photos are just gravy on the goose.
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11-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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The National surveilance sites are not likely to attack my bank account or identity. There is no way to tell how many threats they have discovered or prevented, but apparently something is working. I agree our national secrets should be well guarded, with strict penalties for disclosure, and they should never be compromised for political reasons.
On the other hand, social networking sites, keystroke loggers, electronic card readers, etc- are a more significant threat personally.
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11-15-2013, 03:41 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Fulltime, USA
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Some folks worry way too much about big brother. I have never had anything to hide.
I have never been hacked or bothered on FB, and have only had SPAM via the unique email I use for commercial purchases (yes they sell your email address!!!).
I am not silly enough to click on silly stuff, and have never been enticed by "You have won".
On my PC I use addblocker so my curser is not relevant to FB. And now rarely use PC due to simplicity of iPhone; no adds and they are welcome to track my right index finger.
So, what are some of you hiding?
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