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08-16-2010, 03:45 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 25,898
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How to spot a scam
I received this email in response to a for sale ad I have on several websites.
I was immediately suspicious for several reasons.
The guy is indicating all of these Marine units.
He doesn't indicate his rank.
He provides an international phone number which is the United Kingdom.
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Hello...
Is this Rv still available for sale ? Kindly get back to me with your
reserved price and the present condition.
Thanks
Andy Ford
+447045737931
US Marine Corps
2nd Assault Amphibian Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine
Expeditionary Force
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I replied with same info that is in my ad.
He wants my PayPal account ID without agreeing on a price, sight unseen, and involves an intermediary.
I don't know how the PayPal scam works and I'm not going to find out as I'm not responding.
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Thanks for getting back to me and i appreciate your prompt reply..I am
presently out of town now but i am buying this for my family and i will
like to make the payment for this via Paypal and also my mover will
come for the pick-up...So kindly send me your Paypal account ID and i
will send the Payment for this item instantly and once the money
clears in your account ,my mover will come for the pick-up.
if you don't have a PayPal account yet, you can set one up at
www.paypal.com it cant take you less than 3mins to do that, i will be
expecting your PayPal email so l can pay and also get back to me with
your best price
on this. I will be waiting.
Also kindly send me your number to where i can contact you, Mine is
+447045737931
So kindly get back to me as soon as possible.
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Adios, Dirk - '84 Real Lite Truck Camper, '86 Wilderness Cimarron TT, previously 4 years as a fulltimer in a '07 DSDP
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08-16-2010, 04:00 PM
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 40,594
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Dang! My alias has been discovered. Shoot, I was this close to owning a DSDP.
I just goes to show you, the internet can be full of shady people. Always be very careful when selling (or purchasing) an item online.
Lori-
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Lori (& Dave, my spirit guide) - RV/MH Hall of Fame Lifetime Member | My iRV2 Photo Albums
2016 Phoenix Cruiser 2350S, 2018 Phaeton 40IH,2006 Bounder 36Z, 2004 Cougar 285EFS, 2000 Aerolite 25FBR
There is great need for a sarcasm font.
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08-16-2010, 04:02 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 25,898
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I don't have a PayPal account, but I'm curious how the scam works.
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Adios, Dirk - '84 Real Lite Truck Camper, '86 Wilderness Cimarron TT, previously 4 years as a fulltimer in a '07 DSDP
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08-16-2010, 04:14 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 30,785
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Shouldn't he have the Pay- Pal account and be paying you through pay-pal??
I thought you would get money's from Pay Pal.
He's a scammer looking for your number.
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08-16-2010, 04:21 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Buladean, NC
Posts: 8,126
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Dirk,
He'll deposit funds in your Paypal account and after he takes possession of your property he'll challenge the transaction as unauthorized and have it reversed.
Read this: Paypal scams.
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'11 GMC Acadia SLT AWD
'11 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab
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08-16-2010, 04:22 PM
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 40,594
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He's a pretty dumb scammer & hasn't thought it through. Asking for YOUR account info is a dead giveaway for a scammer.
Many people have their PP account linked to their bank accounts so payments for things they sell go right to their accounts (checking/savings or whatever). What the scammers usually do is say they'll pay you via PP. When you check your account (if you have one) & see no monies, you contact the buyer & they say something like "there must be some issue, I'll try again". When the money still doesn't appear, you might get an email from PP wanting you to log in to verify info or to check to see if the buyer's money is there just not transferred to your bank account. Thinking the email is legitimate (but it isn't, it's generated by the scammer), you enter your user name/password & the scammer's got you. They go on a buying spree with your PP account & your bank account gets depleted.
I'm sure there are many more ways to scam via PP, but this is one I heard about.
Lori-
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Lori (& Dave, my spirit guide) - RV/MH Hall of Fame Lifetime Member | My iRV2 Photo Albums
2016 Phoenix Cruiser 2350S, 2018 Phaeton 40IH,2006 Bounder 36Z, 2004 Cougar 285EFS, 2000 Aerolite 25FBR
There is great need for a sarcasm font.
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08-16-2010, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member
Appalachian Campers Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Warner Robins, GA
Posts: 521
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Sad part is, these reletively few scumbags put everyone on high alert for every bit of communication that goes on in a site like Craigslist. I recently bought a Toro riding mower, a Winegard movin' view (talked them down to $200! and it is like new!) and looked for a scooter, although I didn't end up buying the scoot on CL.
My point is, everytime I sent an email, tried to call or even text message, I could tell most folks were on high alert as I guess they should be. Kind of a sign of the times in which we live I guess.
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2011 Winnebago Vista 30W
Duane, Precy, 11 year old son Matt, and Abby, the spoiled rotten Eskie.
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08-16-2010, 06:04 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 416
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Just last month I won $ 800,000 all they need is my account number, and they will deposet in to my account. The fall off the tunup wagon will have to be a little higher, ya think!
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2019 Northwood Arctic Fox 27 5L
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08-16-2010, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 124
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And so far this year I have received three notices frorm CitiBank that my account has been injected with so much money and all I have to do is send a "confirmation fee' and everything will be o.k.- don't even have a CitiBank account- second- received several e-mails from "DESPERATE SOULS" from overseas telling me about mine or their desperate relatives that are in dire need of cash and these relatives (of which I have none!) will perish if I do not send money - also for those that participate on Facebook, lots of scams in the last couple of months including sofisticated looking bogus e-mails- seems the criminals are looking to other avenues for their activities - ( I cannot post my replies especially to the overseas e-mails here on iRV2!!)
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08-16-2010, 09:08 PM
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmiles
Sad part is, these reletively few scumbags put everyone on high alert for every bit of communication that goes on in a site like Craigslist. I recently bought a Toro riding mower, a Winegard movin' view (talked them down to $200! and it is like new!) and looked for a scooter, although I didn't end up buying the scoot on CL.
My point is, everytime I sent an email, tried to call or even text message, I could tell most folks were on high alert as I guess they should be. Kind of a sign of the times in which we live I guess.
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Craigslist is tough these days... I have a number of things I'm trying to sell, so many spammers and scanners, the only communication method I put in the ads anymore is me cel number. They can't call me, then oh well.
Know anyone who wants a riding lawnmower, 93 corvette, or meyer snowplos for a jeep wrangler?
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08-17-2010, 03:38 AM
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Registered User
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Granite Falls, NC
Posts: 1,156
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There is two ways I sell stuff on e bay and Craigs list... C A S H. Nothing else. I just sold a custom motorcycle on E bay for five grand. Several ''scammers'' wanted to do the Pay Pal thing and I laughed at them. The guy that bought the bike sent me a ''direct transfer'' into my account and I waited two weeks and then let him take the bike. My banker told me that this was the ''surest'' way not to get cheated. The cost to me 12 dollars but was well worth it.
Be advised guys. FOLKS ARE SETTING UP NIGHTS FIGURING OUT HOW TO SCAM YOU....... Like some of you, I have won over a billion dollars overseas from South Africa and England. Lots of folks are putting me in their will it seems ...... one other thing. Be careful of these scams that want you to become a ''paid shopper'' for them. They send you money to your bank account and you ''go shopping'' and send them the merchandise and then you find out their deposit was no good and the money comes out of YOUR ACCOUNT..
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08-18-2010, 02:59 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seajay
There is two ways I sell stuff on e bay and Craigs list... C A S H. Nothing else. I just sold a custom motorcycle on E bay for five grand. Several ''scammers'' wanted to do the Pay Pal thing and I laughed at them. The guy that bought the bike sent me a ''direct transfer'' into my account and I waited two weeks and then let him take the bike. My banker told me that this was the ''surest'' way not to get cheated. The cost to me 12 dollars but was well worth it.
Be advised guys. FOLKS ARE SETTING UP NIGHTS FIGURING OUT HOW TO SCAM YOU....... Like some of you, I have won over a billion dollars overseas from South Africa and England. Lots of folks are putting me in their will it seems ...... one other thing. Be careful of these scams that want you to become a ''paid shopper'' for them. They send you money to your bank account and you ''go shopping'' and send them the merchandise and then you find out their deposit was no good and the money comes out of YOUR ACCOUNT..
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i love them, you have won the ugandan lottery, send money to claim your prize, why do i have to send money to get my prize?
hang on, i have never been to uganda
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08-18-2010, 05:34 AM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 1,357
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Dirk,
IMMEDIATELY REmove the link from your post...clicking on that link sends you too a false paypal site (THAT IS HOW THEY GET YOUR INFO)
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Alpine 40MDTS (gone but not forgotten)
Now Dynaquest 390XL
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08-18-2010, 05:58 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Coastal Campers
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Marathon, Florida
Posts: 2,909
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Be wary of Craigslist sellers who have "secure Ebay" or Ebay services accounts or any ship you the car. While half halfheartedly shopping for a Wrangler I came across a couple that looked and were too good to be true.
How the scam goes is they are in the military overseas in (pick a location) and have to sell it. Another one was getting a divorce and works as a dealer on a cruise ship. They offer to ship the vehicle to you but you can never see it, drive it or get a real phone number. I also notice you will never see a tag on the vehicle in the photos. One local listing here in the northeast had palm trees in the photo, wow the snow kills all of mine.
I play with them and ask where I can see and drive it even if it is a million miles from me. Then when I get the BS replay tell them I will send the money as soon as the Nigerian prince puts the money he promised in my account.
Bottom line is on Craigslist only deal locally with someone face to face. I have also seen the same nonsense on our local newspaper's online listing. Same advice goes there.
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Mark & Nancy
2004 Winnebago Vectra 40KD
Shep dog, R.I.P. Kenzie dog Toad 2015 Jeep Wrangler Willys Wheeler
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