A few billion?
Do you have a source for that?
Do you have any idea of the cost to taxpayers for illegals and illegals who have children here?
Just in California alone its billions!
Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California "” which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide "” $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.... The report also said the incarceration of convicted illegal aliens in state prisons and jails and uncompensated medical outlays for health care provided to illegal aliens each amounted to about $1.4 billion annually. http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...2115-6766r.htm
You can quote a nice "doomsday" scenario here but where are your sources to back it up?
"American farmers going bankrupt while their crops waste in the field, forced to sell their land" Very dramatic, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
Sources to back your assertion?
A far as the WOD, if we protected out borders and our ports as we should and can, we wouldn't need a war on drugs!
About foreign dependence on oil, since your pointing fingers why don't you cast some blame to environmental wacko groups who oppose new drilling of wells in frozen artic wastelands?
One day Mexico, China and the Saudi's will have all of our money and we'll owe them a huge debt as we have borrowed huge amounts of money for our wars.
I fail to see how these countries will have "all our money"?? Moreover, why would we owe them for our war debt? Care to clarify?
Who have we borrowed huge amounts of money from to finance our wars? In addition, since you said wars, plural, which wars are you referring too? WW1, WW2, Korea, Iraq? Or it is just any war
So who do we borrow from and how and who owns the most American debt?
[B]the biggest holder of Treasury debt was the U.S. government itself,[B]
NOT,foreign governments
MSNCB
Updated: 3:27 p.m. ET March 4, 2007
The money is borrowed from buyers of Treasury securities -- which are basically a big batch of IOUs that are auctioned off every three months. As the auction date approaches, the Treasury figures out how much it will need to pay off old debt and cover the government's latest round of overspending.
When the auction day comes, buyers submit bids in the form of the interest rate they're willing to accept. You can choose to make a competitive bid (you ask for a specific rate) or a non-competitive bid (you agree to accept the average rate of other winning bids.) When all the bids are in, the Treasury starts at the bottom, taking the lowest bids until it has collected enough money to cover that round of borrowing.
The money flows in from all over the place: from
individual investors and corporations, pension funds and governments, both in the U.S. and around the world. Basically, anyone with a large amount of cash looking for a safe place to put it is a good candidate for holding U.S. Treasury debt.
So just who are these lenders? As of last June (the latest complete breakdown available here,
http://www.fms.treas.gov/tfm/index.html ),
the biggest holder of Treasury debt was the U.S. government itself, with about 52 percent of the total $8.5 trillion in paper that's out there. Most of the government's holdings are massive savings accounts for programs like Social Security and Medicare. Just as you may prefer to keep your Individual Retirement Account in the safe Treasury bonds, the folks who manage the Social Security Trust Fund are looking for a secure investment, too.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/
[B]GOD BLESS AMERICA
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS
PROTECT OUR BORDERS[B/]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vegascpl:
I have good news for all of you. We are in Mexico for the next few weeks. As a result of your shouting there is a massive build up of Border Patrol agents. You can all rest easy as we are borrowing few billion for more agents. It seems to be a bit like our War On Drugs, but it is affecting the work force as farmers and contractors are having difficulty getting workers. So it may not be very effective but it is working.
I understand that the Mexicans are also getting prepared to supply us even more of our food as American farms go bankrupt because they have no labor to pick their crops and start selling off their land for housing developments. It will soon be like oil where we depend on foreign sources for food. It will cost us a lot more for food, but then again we won't have any need to learn a second language.
A lot of Americans are buying property here in Mexico which is driving up prices dramatically. Condos here go for $400,000 to $600,000 with upper floor large 1400 square foot units going for 1.3 million.
There is massive investment in Mexico these days from the US. I just want to tell you not to worry. One day Mexico, China and the Saudi's will have all of our money and we'll owe them a huge debt as we have borrowed huge amounts of money for our wars. The question then might be which language they will require us to speak?
The way it looks you are pretty much getting what you are asking for. Now the question is are you going to like it once you have it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>