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02-16-2011, 12:45 PM
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When Watson wins (as I believe it will) it does not diminish the fact that Brad and Ken are truly remarkable individuals with a vast amount of knowledge, rather it shows what we can do with technology now and well into the future.
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02-16-2011, 01:11 PM
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Hi two-niner,
I'm glad we are past the reaction time comment. Could you help me understand how the selections of categories and answers favor Watson?
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02-16-2011, 01:58 PM
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I will state this and then shut up.
When every one wrote down their answer to the final jeopardy question. WILSON WAS WRONG AND LOST. ''BUZZING IN'' WAS NOT A FACTOR IN THIS ANSWER. KNOWLEDGE WAS THE FACTOR........ and yes Wilson actually hits a button just like the guys do, they showed it at the first program. Its a manual buzzer with a blue button on top.
One more thing .... Ask the guys if they are actually ''missing the questions because they dont know the answers or are simply being ''out buzzed''. Just curious.....
Nuff said.......
God bless our vets....
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02-16-2011, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two-niner
GaryKD: We all understand history is being made in a very public way. We got all that. Hurray for Watson. IBM is a business, as such, how could it get more publicity and return on their money than whacking Ken and Brad ??
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How about if IBM spent about half of the time allotted for the Jeopardy program touting thier product, and telling the viewing audience what a wonderful company they are? That would give them more return for thier money. In my opinion, win lose or draw, the whole program is a commercial for IBM. Your opinion may vary.
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02-17-2011, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
How about if IBM spent about half of the time allotted for the Jeopardy program touting thier product, and telling the viewing audience what a wonderful company they are? That would give them more return for thier money. In my opinion, win lose or draw, the whole program is a commercial for IBM. Your opinion may vary.
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Actually, I suspect that it is more of an experiment by IBM as was the chess match a few years ago. Yes, there is definitely a marketing angle but those in the company responsible for Watson are in development, not marketing. For those of us who understand computers, the Jeopardy scenario is an unbelievably complex challenge from an artificial intelligence programming standpoint.
IBM has nothing that it can currently market directly from the Jeopardy setup but it definitely helps the overall perception of the company, probably better than even a 5 minute ad spot. Practically speaking, no products came out of the chess challenge either. Setting up such artificial challenges can often spur new thinking about how to solve them and drive further development toward even more difficult goals. If you look at how speak recognition developed, it was because of similar challenges set up to demonstrate the achievements in that area. Look around at how many non-IBM products have cropped up in things like cars.
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02-17-2011, 12:19 PM
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Yes it was quite a demonstration of IBM's (HAL) capabilities.
There was no practical application for powered flight at the time of the Wright brothers either. Yet....
On the other hand, wintering in Las Vegas, you understand how certain events "could" be rigged. For instance: going back 480 previouse Jeopardy games and see if there is a pattern of where the Daily Double is placed. There is always a pattern.
How many daily doubles did Watson hit versus Ken and Brad??
Could you imagine "the inhumanity" if Watson lost?
Those of us who believe Watson is the best thing since sliced bread and those of us who believe it was all a show with a set outcome, will go to our graves believing what we want to.
Look out for SkyNet !!
Kerry (it's just in humor)
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02-17-2011, 02:01 PM
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The IBM name is a product.
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02-17-2011, 02:15 PM
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Hi dieselclacker,
IBM is a Company name. It can also be considered a Brand. Both the Company and the Brand have many products. I'm not sure what your post meant.
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02-17-2011, 02:57 PM
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You guys should just watch Ophra.
My old man told me a long time ago
"He said listen kid, there's only two things on TV that are real,
Wrestling and Roller Derby"
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02-18-2011, 05:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryKD
Hi dieselclacker,
IBM is a Company name. It can also be considered a Brand. Both the Company and the Brand have many products. I'm not sure what your post meant.
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Gary,
The name, IBM is to electronics as the name Ford is to transportation. Selling the company name to the public by making thier accomplishments known makes that particular brand name a product. Thats all I was stating.
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02-18-2011, 05:09 AM
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I agree. It was all about getting the IBM name out there for advertising purposes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieselclacker
Gary,
The name, IBM is to electronics as the name Ford is to transportation. Selling the company name to the public by making thier accomplishments known makes that particular brand name a product. Thats all I was stating.
Dieselclacker
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02-20-2011, 06:13 PM
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Watson would lose
If they all had 5 seconds to push the button and answer like they do on the final question then Watson would lose.
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