"Never Forget!!!!"

[DriVer]

Here SHE is; the USS New York, made from the World Trade Center!



USS New York LPD-21

<span class="ev_code_RED">It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center.</span>

It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite , LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept. 9, 2003 , "those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there."

Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said.. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back."

The ship's motto? "Never Forget"

San Antonio Class Amphibious Transport Dock:
Laid down, 10 September 2004, with remnant steel from World Trade Center cast into her bow, at Northrop Grumman Ship Systems, Avondale Operations, New Orleans, LA.
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Specifications:
Displacement 25,000 t.(fl)
Length 684'
Beam 105'
Draft 23 ft.
Speed 22 kts.
Complement 33 Officers, 411 Enlisted
Troop Accommodations 66 Officers, 625 Enlisted
Flag Staff Accommodations 84

Mission Systems
Vehicles/Cargo (Net): Three Vehicle Decks (2323 sq m)
Two Cargo/Ammo Magazines (708 cu m)
Cargo Fuel, JP-5 (1190 cu m) , MOGAS (38 cu m)
Two LCACs

Medical
Two Operating Rooms
24 Person Hospital Ward
100 Casualty Overflow Capacity:
Aviation Facilities
Hangar - "O" Level, Maintenance Facilities for; One CH-53E, or Two CH-46s, or One MV-22, or Three UH/AH-1s
Landing - Two CH-53s, or Four AH/UH-1s, or Four CH-46s, or Two MV-22s, or One AV-8B Harrier:

Main Propulsion
4 - Medium Speed Turbocharged Marine Diesels
2 - Shafts
2 - Single Reversing Reduction Gears
2 - Inboard Rotating (top) Fixed Pitch Propellers

Electric Plant
5 - 2500 KW Ship Service Marine Diesel Generators
5 - Main Ship Service 60 Hz SWBS
3 - Ship Service 400 Hz SWBS
3 - 60 to 400 Hz solid State Frequency changers Zonal 60 Hz Power distribution system
Advanced Degaussing System

Auxiliaries
7 - 700 KW Non-CFC Air conditioning Plants
5 - 12000 GPD Reverse Osmosis Desalination Plants
10 - 1000 GPM Navy Standard Firepumps
2 - HP Air Compressors
3 - LP Air Compressors
3 - Deballast Air Compressors

Navigation
Digital Flux Gate Magnetic Compass
AN/WSN-7(V)1 Inertial Navigation System
AN/WQN-2 Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
AN/UQN-4A Sonar Sounding Set, Dead Reckoning System
Navigation Telex System
AN/SSN-6 NAVSSI

Armament
1 - MK 41, 16 Cell VLS, (Space & Weight)
2 - MK 31 Mod 0 RAM Launchers
2 - MK 46 Mod 1 30mm Machine Guns
2 - MK 26 Mod 17 .50 Cal Machine Guns

Command & Control
AN/SPQ-12(V) Radar Display Dist. Distribution System
MK 2 SSDS
AN/USQ-119C(V)27 JMCIS
AN/KSQ-1 Amphibious Assault Direction System
MK 91, 2 Channel MFCS
AN/USG-2 CEC

Radar Systems
AN/SPS-48E
AN/SPQ-9B
AN/SPS-73
EW & Decoy Systems
AN/SLQ-25A NIXIE
AN/SLQ-32Q(V)2
MK 36 SRBOC
MK 53 / NULKA

This is an identical class warship to the New York!


Shown is the LPD-20; USS Green Bay

NEVER FORGET!!
Another proud member of;
"The Gator Navy"

[DriVer]

Here SHE is; the USS New York, made from the World Trade Center!



USS New York LPD-21

<span class="ev_code_RED">It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center.</span>

It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

Steel from the World Trade Center was melted down in a foundry in Amite , LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept. 9, 2003 , "those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence," recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. "It was a spiritual moment for everybody there."

Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the "hair on my neck stood up." "It had a big meaning to it for all of us," he said.. "They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back."

The ship's motto? "Never Forget"

San Antonio Class Amphibious Transport Dock:
Laid down, 10 September 2004, with remnant steel from World Trade Center cast into her bow, at Northrop Grumman Ship Systems, Avondale Operations, New Orleans, LA.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specifications:
Displacement 25,000 t.(fl)
Length 684'
Beam 105'
Draft 23 ft.
Speed 22 kts.
Complement 33 Officers, 411 Enlisted
Troop Accommodations 66 Officers, 625 Enlisted
Flag Staff Accommodations 84

Mission Systems
Vehicles/Cargo (Net): Three Vehicle Decks (2323 sq m)
Two Cargo/Ammo Magazines (708 cu m)
Cargo Fuel, JP-5 (1190 cu m) , MOGAS (38 cu m)
Two LCACs

Medical
Two Operating Rooms
24 Person Hospital Ward
100 Casualty Overflow Capacity:
Aviation Facilities
Hangar - "O" Level, Maintenance Facilities for; One CH-53E, or Two CH-46s, or One MV-22, or Three UH/AH-1s
Landing - Two CH-53s, or Four AH/UH-1s, or Four CH-46s, or Two MV-22s, or One AV-8B Harrier:

Main Propulsion
4 - Medium Speed Turbocharged Marine Diesels
2 - Shafts
2 - Single Reversing Reduction Gears
2 - Inboard Rotating (top) Fixed Pitch Propellers

Electric Plant
5 - 2500 KW Ship Service Marine Diesel Generators
5 - Main Ship Service 60 Hz SWBS
3 - Ship Service 400 Hz SWBS
3 - 60 to 400 Hz solid State Frequency changers Zonal 60 Hz Power distribution system
Advanced Degaussing System

Auxiliaries
7 - 700 KW Non-CFC Air conditioning Plants
5 - 12000 GPD Reverse Osmosis Desalination Plants
10 - 1000 GPM Navy Standard Firepumps
2 - HP Air Compressors
3 - LP Air Compressors
3 - Deballast Air Compressors

Navigation
Digital Flux Gate Magnetic Compass
AN/WSN-7(V)1 Inertial Navigation System
AN/WQN-2 Doppler Sonar Velocity Log System
AN/UQN-4A Sonar Sounding Set, Dead Reckoning System
Navigation Telex System
AN/SSN-6 NAVSSI

Armament
1 - MK 41, 16 Cell VLS, (Space & Weight)
2 - MK 31 Mod 0 RAM Launchers
2 - MK 46 Mod 1 30mm Machine Guns
2 - MK 26 Mod 17 .50 Cal Machine Guns

Command & Control
AN/SPQ-12(V) Radar Display Dist. Distribution System
MK 2 SSDS
AN/USQ-119C(V)27 JMCIS
AN/KSQ-1 Amphibious Assault Direction System
MK 91, 2 Channel MFCS
AN/USG-2 CEC

Radar Systems
AN/SPS-48E
AN/SPQ-9B
AN/SPS-73
EW & Decoy Systems
AN/SLQ-25A NIXIE
AN/SLQ-32Q(V)2
MK 36 SRBOC
MK 53 / NULKA

This is an identical class warship to the New York!


Shown is the LPD-20; USS Green Bay

NEVER FORGET!!
Another proud member of;
"The Gator Navy"

[MonacoMama]

There are no words to describe what I felt when I read this...

[jeeprubi]

Awesome ship.

[lthrnk]

DriVer,

Great post and great ship. Thanks to the Gator Navy. We appreciate the ride, nothing like arriving in style.

Mike

[bowats]

This is the kind of news the press should report. Makes you proud to be an American. During the wartime efforts of the last World War, American pride was at an alltime high. We need more exposure and ink on the true success stories of our great nation. God Bless you DriVer.

[Vegascpl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bowats:
This is the kind of news the press should report. Makes you proud to be an American. During the wartime efforts of the last World War, American pride was at an alltime high. We need more exposure and ink on the true success stories of our great nation. God Bless you DriVer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The problem, most Americans and most of the world, for that matter, have with Iraq is that they had nothing to do with 911.

Maybe the reason that American pride is not at an all time high is that we attacked and destroyed a country that was no threat to us and had done nothing to us. We don't even know who the enemy is or what victory looks like. In order to win a war don't you have to know what it is you want to win?

The problem is that in the last 7 years there are no success stories. It seems like everything that has happened since Bush took office has been a disaster. That is my opinion. I'm sure you don't share that opinion. OK so the ball is in your court. Why don't you share some success stories?


Michael

2005 Dutch Star 40' 4 slide
2005 BMW K1200LT motorcycle on lift
2006 Ford Escape Hybrid

[MCPO Ret]

Everyones opinion is welcome and protected by our military forces. I don't necessarily agree that Iraq had nothing to do with 911 - no more than they had nothing to do with other terriost acts like the bombing of the Marine Barracks and the attack on our Navy ship in port. Those were done by some group and the person in the White House at that time did nothing. Sooner or later you have to stand up and do something. What did Clinton ever do for this country except leave it to dodge the draft, lie to the US public, and add a new word to our english language for a sex act? Not a sermon - just a thought.

[Vegascpl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MCPO Ret:
Everyones opinion is welcome and protected by our military forces. I don't necessarily agree that Iraq had nothing to do with 911 - no more than they had nothing to do with other terriost acts like the bombing of the Marine Barracks and the attack on our Navy ship in port. Those were done by some group and the person in the White House at that time did nothing. Sooner or later you have to stand up and do something. What did Clinton ever do for this country except leave it to dodge the draft, lie to the US public, and add a new word to our english language for a sex act? Not a sermon - just a thought. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Bush and Cheney both admit publicly that there is nothing that ties Iraq to 911. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...ushiraq18.html

If you have know something that the US government doesn't know I'm sure they would love to have you come forward. All of the reasons for attacking Iraq have pretty much gone up in smoke. Except for giving them our government which is self destructing as we speak.

Don't you think it's better to do nothing rather than the wrong thing? Can you honestly say that attacking and destroying Iraq was a good thing. Under the best of circumstances what could it have accomplished? Yes, religious extremeists are a problem, but by attacking the way we did we made it a much bigger problem.

If 911 was the reason to attack why not attack Saudi Arabia?

Iraq has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with protecting our right to an opinion. Did you ever think you would see US citizens thrown jail without being charged with a crime. Did you ever think you'd see a time when there was no such thing as attorney client privledge? Did you ever think there would be a time when the government would open your mail, listen to your phone conversations, and read your E-mails? Whose protecting these freedoms?

There are a lot of things that Clinton did for this country including Balancing the Budget! True he did lie about sex. Is there anyone here who can truly say they have never lied about sex? Did anyone die because of Clinton's lie?

Michael

2005 Dutch Star 40' 4 slide
2005 BMW K1200LT motorcycle on lift
2006 Ford Escape Hybrid

["007"]

I think most of us are tired of the Bush and Clinton bashing we will all have a chance to change all that in 2008.
I do not see anyone with the answer as yet and our opinions of both partys are "0".
Meanwhile we have " MEN AND WOMEN" defending us, around this world, so we can enjoy our lifestyles and so we can continue to do so.
They deserve everything we can supply them and if its the World Trade Center remains what finer tribute remembering 911 people who lost their lives.
Sorry to say there maybe more.

[Vegascpl]

911 was a horrible tragedy that none of us will ever forget. However, I think the real tragedy is that we have not learned from it. The Katrina tragedy should have been a warning that we were no more prepared for a terrorist attack than we were before 911. We let 911 happen through our arrogance and stupidity to be blunt. We knew they were coming and what they were going to do we just ignored all the warnings. We were just too focused on Iraq.

The entire world supported us when we started our hunt for Bin Laden in Afghanistan. That action was viewed as justified. However, we soon lost focus on Bin Laden our real enemy and again focused on Iraq. If we had continued to fight the terrorist where the lived and not where they didn't live, we would not have the very serious problems we have today. If we wanted to attack someone why not Saudi Arabia, most of the hijackers were from there and the money to finance it came from there!

This has nothing to do with a ship made from the World Trade Center. That's a great thing. I just think we should focus our patriotism on dealing with our problem and not using it as an excuse to attack anyone we don't like. I think the problem a lot of people in the country are dealing with right now is that it's obvious that the war in Iraq has nothing to do with our freedom. The reality is that it's had just the opposite effect.

Michael

2005 Dutch Star 40' 4 slide
2005 BMW K1200LT motorcycle on lift
2006 Ford Escape Hybrid

[Kernel]

I try to stay out these types of discussions, but Michael - your opinion epitomizes the majority of Americans today who believe everything they see or read. Without all the information available to a select few, you can't possibly understand or give an educated recommendation on how this country protects its citizens and maintains our quality of life (strategic positioning).

The decision to liberate, occupy, or whatever else the media uses to describe it was a Strategic move. The "Big Picture" to the average American is much different from the "Big Picture" we've charged our government to manage.

I ask you to consider your comments in light of the patriotic men and women (DOD and otherwise) that are still there today doing their job with the utmost professionalism.

Our President is correct when he says the final word on Iraq will be written years from now in the history books. Do you think it is coincidence that Iran finds themselves surrounded by liberty loving peoples on three of its borders? There is massive positioning being executed on a gloabal scale. Let's let those whom we've put into the position to make those decisions do their job without malice from the masses. Those types of comments fuel treason, revolution, and a juxtaposition of power. Surely you don't mean to incite any of those in the name of free speach, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

I'll get off my soapbox now, but I couldn't just sit here and not respond.

[Vegascpl]

Kernel, I think there was a time right after 911 when the American public did just that. Many people in this country crawled under a rock and just wanted someone to protect us from the terrorists. We really didn't care about what the news media said. We didn't care that our President never read a newspaper. All we wanted was a bully to protect us.

Unfortunately, the people who vowed to protect us from evil did things that made the problem much worse. There is no doubt that there was a cancer and the cancer was evil, but the surgery was much worse and just spread the cancer. That's why most Americans are reading newspapers and paying attention to the news again. Unfortunately it appears that the people who were elected to protect us were motivated more by greed or ????

I've always supported the troops who are risking their lives in Iraq. They have no choice but to be there. They didn't make the decision to invade Iraq. I think they should have the very best protection possible. Unfortunately our government who sent them there doesn't seem to share that same view. To say that if we support the troops we have to support the war is insane.

This administration has made so many disastrous decisions I don't understand how anyone could still have faith in them.

You accuse me of treason. I think that those who commit their country to war based on information they knew was false, have committed treason. Even implying that I don't have the right to question actions taken by our leader's shows just how much we have lost.

Michael

2005 Dutch Star 40' 4 slide
2005 BMW K1200LT motorcycle on lift
2006 Ford Escape Hybrid

[Indio]

.... Point well taken Michael.

If there was ever any threat to this country, I as a person that has served in the military, would proudly stand up put myself in harms way to defend the Freedoms we as Americans have come to enjoy. Needless to say, Iraq was never even remotely a threat to the United States. All may not agree, but I for one believe the citizens of Iraq were much better off under the maniac that was in control before this country took on the responsibility to remove him. I think the countless thousands of innocence people that have died, would gladly go back given the choice. Keep in mind that Iraq was a sovereign nation, a nation not at war with us, and our leader just decided it was a good idea to remove him.....HuH?

In global sense I would love to see all countries progress in a Democratic way, but did the current administration do their homework on Iraq... NO. This forum does not have the space to recount the blunders made militarily. And, if anyone thinks we installed a good democratic regime in Iraq is crazy.

Everyday day I carry the burden of the loss of lives, everyday, I ask why. It's not that I want to be against the President (I'm a patriotic American), I would just like to see some progress other than what are outright lies lies coming from his lips.

It may just be my Native Way, but I respect all life and would never take another unless it was deserving. The three thousand plus of our soldiers that have died is a tragedy not to take away from the daily lives lost from the bombings. The mess that we have gotten involved in was not worth ONE.

The price we as Americans are going to pay for this is not the close to a trillion we have all ready coughed up, but something else that the future will tell. When the economy of this country is all that great, prices are at an all time high, where did this administration beg, borrow or steal all this money? Someone quoted, "that if we had all this money back, we could provide free health care to every US citizen" These dollars are coming right out of my tax pocket, and I truly do not feel that our Representatives even care. If they did, they would run the current leader out of Dodge. Realistically, I would not want that to happen, then we would get the Second Worst (or First Worser) to take his place.

Just my opinion.