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05-14-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stepside454
Exactly, but RV said a permit in his state is only valid in his state.
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What RV said was " If you have a permit to carry, that permit is valid only in your home state where you applied for it."
His (or the deputy's) assertion is not supported by the law he quoted. It is also an overly broad statement as it is represented to be a fact in all states.
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05-14-2012, 01:26 PM
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#114
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Originally Posted by stepside454
Wa, my permit covers me in 38 states, it's easy to find the laws for each state. So far, personally, the only state I can't carry in has been Illinois, but I brought it with me.
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I just looked at handgunlaw.com and as of 5/5/2012 they show 23 states as recognizing WA's permit. I also have an OR permit, it adds OR and one other state.
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05-14-2012, 03:03 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Originally Posted by wa8yxm
Ok, folks.. As it happens I am a retired police dispatcher.. I was never an officer, and thus not authorized to carry a gun, but I did read a lot.
Unlike driver's licenses, where if you can legally drive it in you home state, you are legal in all the others including Washington DC. Gun permits are not nation wide.. Just because you have a permit in say Flordia, does not mean Michigan will honor it. Or any other state.
The advice given to uniformed police officers is "Leave your home state without it" .(The gun that is).. Even if in uniform!
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Retired Police Officer (if they meet certain qualifications) may carry a fire arm in all 50 states. This is a Federal law and covers ALL states and possessions.
Just for everyones info...Michigan does honor a Florida resident permit.
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05-14-2012, 03:17 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stepside454
Wa, my permit covers me in 38 states, it's easy to find the laws for each state. So far, personally, the only state I can't carry in has been Illinois, but I brought it with me.
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Must be new math...If the only state you couldn't carry in was Illinois, then that would mean that your permit was good in 49 states....
However, according to this site www.handgunlaw.us/states/washington.pdf you are good to go in 24 states with your Washington permit. You might want to consider getting a Florida non-res permit to expand your carry states. www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf .....
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05-14-2012, 03:29 PM
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Ok cb, the only state I've been to since I got my ccw that I haven't been allowed to carry in is Illinois. Sorry I wasn't specific enough. It's all about context
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05-14-2012, 03:41 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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Originally Posted by RV_Road_Trip
Okay fellow RV'ers I read all the post on this issue and come to realize that mostly people are stating their "OPINIONS" and not necessarily the law. Some say that you are required to have a permit to carry and some say you don't, some say you have to have a permit to carry to go through another state. What to do and what to think? So I decided that the best answer would be found at the Sheriff's Department so that is where I started and they told me this; "You DO NOT have to have a permit to carry for a gun in your motorhome, you are covered under the law that says you can have a weapon in your home. If you have a permit to carry, that permit is valid only in your home state where you applied for it. Next, I presented the same question to the Police Department and they gave me the exact same reply as did the Sheriff's Department. My conclusion is that you DO NOT have to have a permit to carry in your motorhome as it is under "Your Home" defination and that is not an opinion. For those who have a permit to carry then in your home state you are covered to carry your weapon on your person but not required to have it in a drawer in your motorhome. I hope this clears the air on this discussion, it did for me and thankfully I decided to ask the two law enforcement agencies for the correct answer.
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RV, I hate to break this to you, but asking the police dept or sheriff's dept about the meaning of a "law" is just asking for trouble. There are plenty of websites that will list the laws, or better yet, contact your attorney and go over the law on this subject with him....Also let me state that anybody that carries a firearm would be well advise to have an attorney, and to have his office and home number on your speed dial....When and if you ever have to pull the trigger your life WILL change, and the police/sheriff dept will not be your friend, so DO NOT TALK to anybody until after you talk to your lawyer. You will be so "pumped up" after a shooting that you will need to "wind down" before giving any statements to the police. Remember, anything and everything can and will be used against you if it ever goes to court.
So please know your firearm and know the laws in your state (or any state that you visit)...and be safe.
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05-14-2012, 03:49 PM
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#119
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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Originally Posted by stepside454
Ok cb, the only state I've been to since I got my ccw that I haven't been allowed to carry in is Illinois. Sorry I wasn't specific enough. It's all about context
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Actually, depending on what route you traveled to ILL by you may have traveled thru a couple of states that don't honor WA's CCW. WY and NE are two that come to mind.
Of course ILL doesn't trust it's citizens to carry either concealed or open, and no state permits are good there.
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05-14-2012, 04:22 PM
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#120
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
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Hi All!
I was reading the "packing heat" thread and being brand to the RV world I'd like your thoughts on how safe you think traveling alone is in an RV. I might have an opportunity to be a camp ground host at my favorite national park for the summer and because of the length of time and nature of the job I plan to purchase an RV. Firearms are permitted in the park, but they aren't an option because I will have 2 kids with me.
My kids and I are seasoned tenters both in the backcountry wilderness and in campsites and we never once had an experience where we felt unsafe. I will have direct radio communications with law enforcement rangers and I tend to think (naively???) that although there will always be a few strange birds out there that things will be OK. My husband can't join me until the tail end of the summer.
I would hate to turn down this opportunity we are so looking forward to because of some fear I have and on the other hand I want to think through this carefully, especially because of my kids. Can you share your experiences, good and not-so-good? What do you do to keep safe? Many Thanks!!
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05-14-2012, 04:33 PM
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#121
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner Ford Super Duty Owner Carolina Campers
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by adventuremom
Hi All!
I was reading the "packing heat" thread and being brand to the RV world I'd like your thoughts on how safe you think traveling alone is in an RV. I might have an opportunity to be a camp ground host at my favorite national park for the summer and because of the length of time and nature of the job I plan to purchase an RV. Firearms are permitted in the park, but they aren't an option because I will have 2 kids with me.
My kids and I are seasoned tenters both in the backcountry wilderness and in campsites and we never once had an experience where we felt unsafe. I will have direct radio communications with law enforcement rangers and I tend to think (naively???) that although there will always be a few strange birds out there that things will be OK. My husband can't join me until the tail end of the summer.
I would hate to turn down this opportunity we are so looking forward to because of some fear I have and on the other hand I want to think through this carefully, especially because of my kids. Can you share your experiences, good and not-so-good? What do you do to keep safe? Many Thanks!!
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I have never, ever one time, ever felt the need to brandish my weapon in self defense while RVing. Not one time. (Past performance is no guarantee of future results.)
As I said earlier in the thread, to me a firearm is just another tool. Like a fire extinguisher. If I never had occasion to use any of my tools ever again, I'd have lead a blessed and happy life. It brings me comfort to know I have the tools I need in the event I should need them. If I was traveling with my kids, I'd teach them what the fire extinguisher is for, and when it's OK to use it.
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05-14-2012, 04:50 PM
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Well said. I've never felt my life was in danger while rving either. Just like anything, use your head, if the area your in doesn't feel right, move on.
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05-14-2012, 05:08 PM
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#123
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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Originally Posted by Ramblin
I have never, ever one time, ever felt the need to brandish my weapon in self defense while RVing. Not one time. (Past performance is no guarantee of future results.)
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I have, and was very glad I was prepared. And, it was in my RV in a state that doesn't recognize my permit. I wasn't carrying but had it close since I was parked for the night.
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05-14-2012, 09:00 PM
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#124
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Quartz Hill, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MartySQ
LadyFitz... those are power surges!
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Hope she doesn't blow a fuse !!
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05-14-2012, 09:10 PM
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#125
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Port Hadlock, Washington
Posts: 2,855
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
That's why a lot of gun owners load their own, then no one but they get to decide who has ammo.
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No ammo for you!
But you can keep the gun(s)
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05-15-2012, 05:37 AM
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#126
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 236
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DW and I both have CWP's always carry in Motorhome.
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