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Old 07-31-2017, 11:59 AM   #68993
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Just some thoughts...
There is lots of wasted space in California.
There are too many people in the usable space in California.
Lots of people want to go the same places I want to go.
Traffic jams can occur at any point in time.
Golden Gate Bridge is spectacular, even draped in fog.
Driving Lombard street was less than spectacular, but we did it!
Today, Santa Cruz!
Tim... I think Oregon is worse. Entirely too much of 101 runs inland and you'd never know there was a ocean there. Just trees and trees and more trees. And few turn outs too, few passing lanes. Traveling east / west is worse. Lol.
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:05 PM   #68994
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I had to get a new one... wore the first one out!
Slept in a bit... but we'll be off and running soon!
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Old 07-31-2017, 12:49 PM   #68995
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One more before note before moving along... woke up at 3 am... cold. Looked at the wx... 48 degrees. Pulled the comforter up and went back to sleep. It's a summer I can deal with. Winter. Not so much.
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Arrived in Moab at 2:00 after a grueling drive of 159 miles.

Archview RV Resort is adequate. However, must make reservation thru Booking.com, no phone number on their website, website shows their location south of the Colorado River (It's 8 miles north), we have 2 gps devices and neither one could locate the CG. Maddening. Will not patronize again or put it on my gc recommendation list. Reduced our stay from 10 to 8 days.
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Okay, it's time for a rant.

I am getting sick and tired of worthless, irrelevant, threatening, outdated, and poorly positioned "road work ahead" signs.

IF road construction workers need to be protected from idiot drivers, THEN each sign (to be taken seriously) must be properly maintained and be relevant to the activity that REALLY taking place (if any IS taking place).

We are threatened with loss of driver's license, fines, and criminal charges if we run over a construction worker while NOT OBEYING THE SIGNS.

All states have the same problems when it comes to "construction zone" signs. I HAVE seen the following: Road Construction 1 mile ahead, Road Construction 1/2 mile ahead, speed zone 40 miles per hour, one lane road ahead, flagger ahead, flagger ahead. AND NO ONE, I say NO ONE is at the construction site and it's 10 P.M.

A construction company should be fined for such stupidity. Their phone number should be posted on these signs. And the phone number should ring in 24/7 to various foremen (on a rotating basis).

Senseless signage encourages driver to ignore ALL signage. Today, in 150 miles, I saw 2 glaring examples of stupid signage.

It's one of my pet peeves. Can you tell? There's no need to send me a
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Slept in a bit... but we'll be off and running soon!
It is a pretty spectacular drive down 101. We did it a couple years back on our way home from AZ. We were driving the coach and were not able to stop and see things. We want to go back and get a spot somewhere and enjoy it like you guys are. The pics. are fantastic. keep them coming! Have fun!!
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Okay, it's time for a rant.

I am getting sick and tired of worthless, irrelevant, threatening, outdated, and poorly positioned "road work ahead" signs.

IF road construction workers need to be protected from idiot drivers, THEN each sign (to be taken seriously) must be properly maintained and be relevant to the activity that REALLY taking place (if any IS taking place).

We are threatened with loss of driver's license, fines, and criminal charges if we run over a construction worker while NOT OBEYING THE SIGNS.

All states have the same problems when it comes to "construction zone" signs. I HAVE seen the following: Road Construction 1 mile ahead, Road Construction 1/2 mile ahead, speed zone 40 miles per hour, one lane road ahead, flagger ahead, flagger ahead. AND NO ONE, I say NO ONE is at the construction site and it's 10 P.M.

A construction company should be fined for such stupidity. Their phone number should be posted on these signs. And the phone number should ring in 24/7 to various foremen (on a rotating basis).

Senseless signage encourages driver to ignore ALL signage. Today, in 150 miles, I saw 2 glaring examples of stupid signage.

It's one of my pet peeves. Can you tell? There's no need to send me a
I'm playing devil's advocate here - I suspect they take this approach because 1) it takes anywhere from 1/2 day to a full day to setup all those signs 2) it's dangerous to setup those signs since they are attempting to slow traffic yet it's whizzing by and 3) think of the costs to the project if whenever they weren't actively working on a particular section they had to also allocate setup and break-down time.

I'll also add this if you haven't dealt with many construction companies - that isn't their only job so they bounce around from site to site until complaints start coming and they then move to the latest complainers project
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Be very careful mutants traveling in Oregon......[kATTACH]171004[/ATTACH]
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We did the 101 a few years ago... started in Astoria wet the entire coast, spent the entire month of July doing it... loved it.. be sure and pick up the 101 by the mile magazine....
We have gone up The 101 four times, and several trips in the TOAD down The 1. Each time is spectacular and different.

We are ready for another one that way sometime.
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Be very careful mutants traveling in Oregon......[kATTACH]171004[/ATTACH]


Suppose it will cool down by the time we reach that area?!? Mid-late August... not likely. although I hear rumors they do have more moderate weather than Kansas...Although can't complain about our weather this week... 80's daytime, nice and cool at night.
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I'm playing devil's advocate here - I suspect they take this approach because 1) it takes anywhere from 1/2 day to a full day to setup all those signs 2) it's dangerous to setup those signs since they are attempting to slow traffic yet it's whizzing by and 3) think of the costs to the project if whenever they weren't actively working on a particular section they had to also allocate setup and break-down time.

I'll also add this if you haven't dealt with many construction companies - that isn't their only job so they bounce around from site to site until complaints start coming and they then move to the latest complainers project
Your argument is sound if you're only talking about the repaving of I 75 or I 90 from milepost 145 to 187. My major complaint is local "little" jobs that appears as though the workers watch the clock and at "zero hour" they get in their trucks and go home. The signs they leave "up" behind them when they leave are annoying and defeat the purpose of protecting workers at the side of the road. Signs need to stay up when a project is ongoing but to leave the "flagger ahead" sign up on State Road 38 all night is stupid.
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I am with you Papaw! Last month we were on a trip and seen that many times. Then they wonder why people are not slowing down any more. I have worked in many construction sites and traffic not slowing down is a big problem but they need to be more diligent with taking the signs down when they are not there.
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It is a pretty spectacular drive down 101. We did it a couple years back on our way home from AZ. We were driving the coach and were not able to stop and see things. We want to go back and get a spot somewhere and enjoy it like you guys are. The pics. are fantastic. keep them coming! Have fun!!
We have exceeded our day trip mileage / time limits several times. And I really don't like trying to see places on the run. But... generally speaking, I'm feeling better than I have in a long time. I know that feeling you're talking about Steve. Makes ya want to keep at it.

We got a late start today which is always bad. There's plenty of traffic and congestion at the turnouts this time of year, and the sun quickly gets in the way. We did mange some pics.
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