|
|
03-26-2015, 10:14 AM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 852
|
Wal Mart Crime
How long before the company does something about the fact that their overnight camping policy attracts crime ? Municipalities where these places are sited recognize the increase in crime and problems they bring.
Idaho family named as suspects in fatal Arizona Wal-Mart brawl
__________________
1998 Newmar Dutch Star, 3126B Cat/ Freightliner
2003 Honda Element
" Don't let the same dog bite you twice "
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
03-26-2015, 10:31 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 367
|
That's nuts! A few weeks ago, I went to my local Walmart for my weekly shopping. As I drove thru the lot, I noticed neat looking, mid-80's Allegro, so I drove past it slowly admiring it. I went in the store & did my shopping. When I came out, there's 2 guys sitting on my Jeep. I approach & they start...."You road past slow looking at out Moho...what the .... [moderator edit] problem.............." I explained that I'm an RV'r & was admiring their classic. After a few minutes of them thinking that they wanted to try kicking my [moderator edit] (I don't back down), they eased up & said "Well, just understand, that rig is all we got & if someone's looking at it like you did, we gotta think something's up"
Seems that they're homeless & very defensive of what's their's.
__________________
2012 Thor Astoria 36MQ
Butter Toffee on Toasted Almond
'96 Cherokee toad Tim, Dar & our black Lab "Chase"
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 10:32 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake County, IL
Posts: 1,584
|
You cite one incident and then assert that RV parking at Walmart causes crime. This is a classic case of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo sum (after this therefore because of this). I read nothing to indicate that the brawl was caused because this family was camped in Walmart.
Thw facts reported in the article you linked to might just as well lead you to conclude that coming from Idaho causes crime, or that being in a Christian band causes crime. Do you have any facts that actually back up your assertions?
Joel
__________________
Retired electronics engineer. Avid paddler & birder.
2011 Silverado 2500HD, diesel, 4x4,crew cab, 8' bed
Palomino Puma 253FBS (27' 5er) & '94 19' Class B
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 10:38 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 852
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Birder
You cite one incident and then assert that RV parking at Walmart causes crime. This is a classic case of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo sum (after this therefore because of this). I read nothing to indicate that the brawl was caused because this family was camped in Walmart.
Thw facts reported in the article you linked to might just as well lead you to conclude that coming from Idaho causes crime, or that being in a Christian band causes crime. Do you have any facts that actually back up your assertion?
Joel
|
Walmart Linked To Higher Crime Rates: Study
Wal-Mart Parking Lots Are A Virtual Magnet For Crime
You could spend hours and find case after case of crime related to WalMArt locations
__________________
1998 Newmar Dutch Star, 3126B Cat/ Freightliner
2003 Honda Element
" Don't let the same dog bite you twice "
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 10:43 AM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 459
|
I think it works the other way more often.
We were at a Walmart somewhere in Tennessee and I noticed a youth walking among the parked cars an looking into each as he passed. I called the store and there security guy was out there pretty fast and the youth trotted away as he approached. He drove by our coach and waved to me.
Matt
__________________
A lifelong waterman and his bride going dry places for as long as the fuel money lasts.
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 11:05 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 950
|
Good grief. I guess attacking Wal-Mart is just a fun occupation for some folks. If you substitute "USA's Largest Retailer" for "Wal-Mart" you get some idea of why they might have more crime; they have more people there.
I am constantly stunned by the "War on Wal-Mart RV Parking". A local LA TV station even went so far as to rent a 5th wheel rig and park it in our local Wal-Mart parking lot and then report on the trouble with "overnight" parking at the store. Never mind that one of the "residents" kicked out as a result was a struggling Cal State Fullerton student that was making spending money blogging about her experience as a camper in a parking lot. So, TV stations are even willing to "manufacture" news about this issue. I, for one, don't trust any of these reports.
__________________
2003 Beaver Patriot
2014 Honda CRV Toad
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 11:06 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Oklahoma Boomers Club
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Woodward, OK
Posts: 1,147
|
If you go to any city and find a place where large groups of people and vehicles are found, put that in a bad neighborhood and it won't matter what else is there, be it Walmart or Costco and you will find a higher rate of crime.
Race is irrelevant (unless you mean the human race). But if the police crack down in those neighborhoods there will be cries of racism, profiling etc. All the while those same folks will complain the cops do nothing about crime in their neighborhoods.
Over the last several decades concern has shifted from the victims to the perps. How far we have fallen.
__________________
Jay Devereaux
1992 Country Coach Magna #4926 "Maggie" 25' Stacker "The Toy Box"
Facebook | IRV2[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 11:44 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,048
|
It has nothing to do with Walmart. Girl scouts have been raped and murdered in their private campgrounds. RV'ers have been victims of crime in koas, jellystone and public CGS. Maybe RVs are the cause of crime. Lol. The fact is that there is evil in the world and no place, even churches are exempt from the deeds of those who practice evil.
__________________
2008 Tundra DC, 5.7L, Airlift 5000 Airbags
2013 Rockwood 8282WS
Signature Untralight Diamond Package
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 01:26 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 367
|
I didn't mean it was Wal Mart's fault. I was simply statiing that this particular incident involved a "loose canon"
__________________
2012 Thor Astoria 36MQ
Butter Toffee on Toasted Almond
'96 Cherokee toad Tim, Dar & our black Lab "Chase"
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 01:51 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Lake Mary, FL
Posts: 169
|
Walmart is a cesspool for crime, I refuse to shop there and would not even consider letting my wife or daughters going there without escort. They never have what I need "hard to believe I know" and the class of people and ignorance it attracts is beneath what I consider acceptable. Feel free to flame me, but I personally own retail stores and try to operate at a higher level of standards then what Walmart considers its norm!!!
__________________
2019 River Stone Legacy 38MB
2011 Tuscany 4051 (SOLD)
In Gator Country
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 01:56 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 950
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boostable
Walmart is a cesspool for crime, I refuse to shop there and would not even consider letting my wife or daughters going there without escort. They never have what I need "hard to believe I know" and the class of people and ignorance it attracts is beneath what I consider acceptable. Feel free to flame me, but I personally own retail stores and try to operate at a higher level of standards then what Walmart considers its norm!!!
|
okey dokey
__________________
2003 Beaver Patriot
2014 Honda CRV Toad
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 02:11 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: D/FW Texas
Posts: 767
|
It's not just Walmart, look at crime stats at your local mall, or large strip shopping center. As Old Car Nut said any place you find lots of cars and people there's going to be crime. The bad guys are opportunists, where ever they can find easy targets is where they will strike.
Mike H
__________________
Mike & Debbie
2003 36' Monaco Cayman
2007 Saturn Vue "pusher"
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 02:31 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 682
|
We have traveled many thousands of miles in our RV, all across the USA. Walmart has always been a valued place to go to. Familiar store formats, very friendly associates. Good value, great selection of products, good services. Walmart's auto service for oil changes, tire work, tune ups is the best. One set of national standards regardless if you are in Florida or California. People who criticize Walmart do not recognize the value that Walmart affords their customers: both rich and not so rich.
Regards,
JimBs
.
|
|
|
03-26-2015, 02:41 PM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 8,055
|
I'm reminded of a local mall that was built with Urban Renewal money. Once the money ran out the mall closed because the neighborhood is not safe so parking lot crime was high on one hand while the local folks could not afford half the stores on the other. The result was the real shoppers stopped going there, the stores left and not the town is fighting with the current owner because they want the taxes of a working mall. Plonk a Walmart or Target in the same place and they would get the same problem. So why hate Walmart for it?
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
Similar Threads
|
Thread |
Thread Starter |
Forum |
Replies |
Last Post |
Ode to Wal Mart
|
Boeing Guy |
Just Conversation |
22 |
03-26-2015 08:22 PM |
Wal Mart?
|
mike.t |
Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports |
33 |
09-22-2014 08:55 AM |
TC's Mini Mart Sioux Falls SD
|
Big B |
Just Conversation |
8 |
06-17-2014 09:23 PM |
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|