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datrbone8 · 03-26-2015, 10:14 AM

How long before the company does something about the fact that their overnight camping policy attracts crime ? Municipalities where these places are sited recognize the increase in crime and problems they bring.

Idaho family named as suspects in fatal Arizona Wal-Mart brawl

MuckSavage · 03-26-2015, 10:31 AM

That's nuts! A few weeks ago, I went to my local Walmart for my weekly shopping. As I drove thru the lot, I noticed neat looking, mid-80's Allegro, so I drove past it slowly admiring it. I went in the store & did my shopping. When I came out, there's 2 guys sitting on my Jeep. I approach & they start...."You road past slow looking at out Moho...what the .... [moderator edit] problem.............." I explained that I'm an RV'r & was admiring their classic. After a few minutes of them thinking that they wanted to try kicking my [moderator edit] (I don't back down), they eased up & said "Well, just understand, that rig is all we got & if someone's looking at it like you did, we gotta think something's up"
Seems that they're homeless & very defensive of what's their's.

J Birder · 03-26-2015, 10:32 AM

You cite one incident and then assert that RV parking at Walmart causes crime. This is a classic case of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo sum (after this therefore because of this). I read nothing to indicate that the brawl was caused because this family was camped in Walmart.

Thw facts reported in the article you linked to might just as well lead you to conclude that coming from Idaho causes crime, or that being in a Christian band causes crime. Do you have any facts that actually back up your assertions?

Joel

datrbone8 · 03-26-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by J Birder

You cite one incident and then assert that RV parking at Walmart causes crime. This is a classic case of the logical fallacy post hoc ergo sum (after this therefore because of this). I read nothing to indicate that the brawl was caused because this family was camped in Walmart.

Thw facts reported in the article you linked to might just as well lead you to conclude that coming from Idaho causes crime, or that being in a Christian band causes crime. Do you have any facts that actually back up your assertion?

Joel

Walmart Linked To Higher Crime Rates: Study
Wal-Mart Parking Lots Are A Virtual Magnet For Crime

You could spend hours and find case after case of crime related to WalMArt locations

MattC · 03-26-2015, 10:43 AM

I think it works the other way more often.
We were at a Walmart somewhere in Tennessee and I noticed a youth walking among the parked cars an looking into each as he passed. I called the store and there security guy was out there pretty fast and the youth trotted away as he approached. He drove by our coach and waved to me.

Matt

Bob&AnnaMari · 03-26-2015, 11:05 AM

Good grief. I guess attacking Wal-Mart is just a fun occupation for some folks. If you substitute "USA's Largest Retailer" for "Wal-Mart" you get some idea of why they might have more crime; they have more people there.

I am constantly stunned by the "War on Wal-Mart RV Parking". A local LA TV station even went so far as to rent a 5th wheel rig and park it in our local Wal-Mart parking lot and then report on the trouble with "overnight" parking at the store. Never mind that one of the "residents" kicked out as a result was a struggling Cal State Fullerton student that was making spending money blogging about her experience as a camper in a parking lot. So, TV stations are even willing to "manufacture" news about this issue. I, for one, don't trust any of these reports.

Old Car Nut · 03-26-2015, 11:06 AM

If you go to any city and find a place where large groups of people and vehicles are found, put that in a bad neighborhood and it won't matter what else is there, be it Walmart or Costco and you will find a higher rate of crime.

Race is irrelevant (unless you mean the human race). But if the police crack down in those neighborhoods there will be cries of racism, profiling etc. All the while those same folks will complain the cops do nothing about crime in their neighborhoods.

Over the last several decades concern has shifted from the victims to the perps. How far we have fallen.

davendeb · 03-26-2015, 11:44 AM

It has nothing to do with Walmart. Girl scouts have been raped and murdered in their private campgrounds. RV'ers have been victims of crime in koas, jellystone and public CGS. Maybe RVs are the cause of crime. Lol. The fact is that there is evil in the world and no place, even churches are exempt from the deeds of those who practice evil.

MuckSavage · 03-26-2015, 01:26 PM

I didn't mean it was Wal Mart's fault. I was simply statiing that this particular incident involved a "loose canon"

Boostable · 03-26-2015, 01:51 PM

Walmart is a cesspool for crime, I refuse to shop there and would not even consider letting my wife or daughters going there without escort. They never have what I need "hard to believe I know" and the class of people and ignorance it attracts is beneath what I consider acceptable. Feel free to flame me, but I personally own retail stores and try to operate at a higher level of standards then what Walmart considers its norm!!!

Bob&AnnaMari · 03-26-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostable

Walmart is a cesspool for crime, I refuse to shop there and would not even consider letting my wife or daughters going there without escort. They never have what I need "hard to believe I know" and the class of people and ignorance it attracts is beneath what I consider acceptable. Feel free to flame me, but I personally own retail stores and try to operate at a higher level of standards then what Walmart considers its norm!!!

okey dokey

Bubba1 · 03-26-2015, 02:11 PM

It's not just Walmart, look at crime stats at your local mall, or large strip shopping center. As Old Car Nut said any place you find lots of cars and people there's going to be crime. The bad guys are opportunists, where ever they can find easy targets is where they will strike.

Mike H

JBDISCOVERY · 03-26-2015, 02:31 PM

We have traveled many thousands of miles in our RV, all across the USA. Walmart has always been a valued place to go to. Familiar store formats, very friendly associates. Good value, great selection of products, good services. Walmart's auto service for oil changes, tire work, tune ups is the best. One set of national standards regardless if you are in Florida or California. People who criticize Walmart do not recognize the value that Walmart affords their customers: both rich and not so rich.
Regards,
JimBs
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nothermark · 03-26-2015, 02:41 PM

I'm reminded of a local mall that was built with Urban Renewal money. Once the money ran out the mall closed because the neighborhood is not safe so parking lot crime was high on one hand while the local folks could not afford half the stores on the other. The result was the real shoppers stopped going there, the stores left and not the town is fighting with the current owner because they want the taxes of a working mall. Plonk a Walmart or Target in the same place and they would get the same problem. So why hate Walmart for it?